Bubbly mouth

[Chris72]

Originally Posted by MDT

You mean....Get an Rx ONLY IF THE CULTURE SUPPORTS IT. Right?

Well of course. Less drugs are always better.

Brian from bhb does a vapor protocol that's very popular in Europe.

Wounding if anyone has tried that?

[millertime89]

Originally Posted by Chris72

Well of course. Less drugs are always better.

Brian from bhb does a vapor protocol that's very popular in Europe.

Wounding if anyone has tried that?

Yes. If you're seeing bubbling at the mouth it probably won't be effective. It only works for RIs caught really early. Once you see the bubbles it's probably too late for that. I've tried it before when I saw bubbles on my old dwarf burm's mouth/nose and it helped for a little bit but it didn't actually get rid of the RI, just reduced the symptoms.

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by millertime89

Yes. If you're seeing bubbling at the mouth it probably won't be effective. It only works for RIs caught really early. Once you see the bubbles it's probably too late for that. I've tried it before when I saw bubbles on my old dwarf burm's mouth/nose and it helped for a little bit but it didn't actually get rid of the RI, just reduced the symptoms.

The other problem is figuring out if the RI is viral or bacterial. If it's viral it would only suppress the symptoms as you mentioned.

[millertime89]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

The other problem is figuring out if the RI is viral or bacterial. If it's viral it would only suppress the symptoms as you mentioned.

Excellent point, the solution that you mix in the water is F10 which is an antibacterial chemical. Furthermore in my discussion with vets, every one that I've spoken with feels that it would also be an irritant and could potentially make the situation worse.

[Chris72]

Originally Posted by millertime89

Excellent point, the solution that you mix in the water is F10 which is an antibacterial chemical. Furthermore in my discussion with vets, every one that I've spoken with feels that it would also be an irritant and could potentially make the situation worse.

Have never understood why anyone would throw away valuable treatment time, and possibly the life of the animal, messing around with half baked ideas that are known to be harmful. (Why...to save a vet visit?)

[MDT]

Originally Posted by Chris72

Have never understood why anyone would throw away valuable treatment time, and possibly the life of the animal, messing around with half baked ideas that are known to be harmful. (Why...to save a vet visit?)

Trust me....people will do anything to "save" a visit to vet/doctor/whatever.
With the advent of Google, everyone is a freaking internet physician. I hear the same thing from a vet friend of mine.

It seems that half of my encounters with patients are trying to undo what they have diagnosed themselves with on WebMD or Google or even worse, Dr. Oz.....

[shaunyboy]

Originally Posted by millertime89

Excellent point, the solution that you mix in the water is F10 which is an antibacterial chemical. Furthermore in my discussion with vets, every one that I've spoken with feels that it would also be an irritant and could potentially make the situation worse.

i had a Jag that kept getting RI symptoms...

we did a tracheal wash and found no viral or bacterial infection

we did key hole surgery and the lung was in perfect shape and a colour..

we took swabs from the lung during surgery,that showed nothing after being cultured

but there were small blobs of water in appearing in the lung..

i had great vet at the time Romain Pizza,who is now the vet at Edinburgh Zoo,he travels the world collecting creatures for the zoo now,and was a reptile keeper himself...

regarding the small drops of water appearing,he said what was going on with the jags lung,was similar to a human with something like Cystic Fibrosis...

F10 in a nebuliser dilluted at 250:1,twice a day for 15 minutes,kept the condition at bay for the most part..

the snake only lived another 4 or 5 years,but symptom free 90% of that time


to the op
please don't worry,as it was not a respiratory infection that killed my Jag,it was an on going lung problem

get your vet to identify the type of infection and what treatment is best for said infection..


F10 in a nebuliser only helps with certain types of infection mate


cheers shaun