Anyone here have experience with dwarf boa regurgitation??

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by mikoh4792

Yeah I know. For a week now I've been keeping her humidity up and changing her water bowl every morning. She should become hydrated if she ever was dehydrated. I never took his advice though...don't know where you got that.

You keep referring to him to defend your actions!!! Where else would I infer such a notion?!

Noobs...

[lady_bug87]

Originally Posted by mikoh4792

I did not know prior to the purchase. I contacted the owner when it first arrived because I was worried at how underfed/skinny it looked. This is when he told me about the snake's problems.

Never. Deal. With. This. Breeder. Again.

[Mikoh4792]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

The bold...the second red flag on why I wouldn't buy or listen to this person. Who doesn't quarantine? Secondly, it would have to be some disgusting set up for cross contamination. Internal parasites don't just up and walk away...

The italics...why do you keep two at the bottom and middle of the cage and none at the top where she apparently spends most of her time? She doesn't bask in the middle.

The underline...you've given this animal ONLY one choice to bask. She will continue to do so because without she'll die. It doesn't make it optimal. That's like putting it in a glass bowl full of water and saying it "loves to swim all the time".

I'm not bitter about anything. I'm frustrated because people like you come here because you believe we know a better solution than you can come up with on your own so you ask a question. You get answers and because they don't match up with YOUR ideas you put them off and criticize them. It's fine to ask for further detail but not a person has come to say myself or Lady_bug is wrong so it should say something.


So now because you don't want to admit to things being your mistake since you're dead set on the arboreal set up because you think it's best you're now saying that due to it eating on a better schedule it would regurge?

I wasn't criticizing your ideas. I was just stating that you haven't proven to me why my setup was wrong even when my snake was thermoregulating herself with the proper temperatures available.

The reason why I don't have a thermometer at the top is because I have taped a helix proportional thermostat to her basking area, and I also check a few times a day with my infrared heat gun to make sure her hotspot is in check. Basically, the temperatures for the whole cage are accounted for.

How many options can I give to a snake so small? Small snakes kept in tubs or even smaller enclosures usually only have one choice of heat, be it a heat tape, pad, or a light. Also, what is not optimal about it? She goes up, she basks at 90F. <--- Is there something wrong here?

I am also not deadset on an arboreal setup. I don't like repeating myself but I will. I have said before that I would give it some time to confirm that she doesn't continue to thermoregulate herself based on the setup I have given her, before taking the advice of the posters here including you and giving her a terrestrial type of setup.


EDIT: I mentioned the powerfeeding so that it may give some more insight on the problem. I don't mean to redirect the fault at the previous owner. Heck I don't even know the problem is!

[Mikoh4792]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

You keep referring to him to defend your actions!!! Where else would I infer such a notion?!

Noobs...

I refer him to tell you guys how he has kept his snakes before selling one of them to me. I never mentioned anything about listening to him.

nooby dooby doo!

Originally Posted by lady_bug87

Never. Deal. With. This. Breeder. Again.

I most definitely won't.

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by mikoh4792

I refer him to tell you guys how he has kept his snakes before selling one of them to me. I never mentioned anything about listening to him.

nooby dooby doo!



I most definitely won't.

Yet, the way he keeps him has them regurging and you've used this to try to say that it's not you, it's the snake! Get how you use him to defend you yet?

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by mikoh4792

I wasn't criticizing your ideas. I was just stating that you haven't proven to me why my setup was wrong even when my snake was thermoregulating herself with the proper temperatures available.

The reason why I don't have a thermometer at the top is because I have taped a helix proportional thermostat to her basking area, and I also check a few times a day with my infrared heat gun to make sure her hotspot is in check. Basically, the temperatures for the whole cage are accounted for.

How many options can I give to a snake so small? Small snakes kept in tubs or even smaller enclosures usually only have one choice of heat, be it a heat tape, pad, or a light. Also, what is not optimal about it? She goes up, she basks at 90F. <--- Is there something wrong here?

I am also not deadset on an arboreal setup. I don't like repeating myself but I will. I have said before that I would give it some time to confirm that she doesn't continue to thermoregulate herself based on the setup I have given her, before taking the advice of the posters here including you and giving her a terrestrial type of setup.

I don't like repeating myself either but I seem to have to. The fact, that your snake did not digest it's meal would tell me something is wrong with your set up.

All of my snakes are in tubs. ALL of them and there's plenty. None regurge. I don't have this issue. I never do because I maintain a proper enclosure for them all.

[Aaron_S]

Originally Posted by lady_bug87

Never. Deal. With. This. Breeder. Again.

Don't leave me hanging back in my previous post...

[Mikoh4792]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

Yet, the way he keeps him has them regurging and you've used this to try to say that it's not you, it's the snake! Get how you use him to defend you yet?

Well it is true that the problem hasn't stemmed from me. Also, this particular aspect of our argument wasn't about using him to defend me. It was more so about me taking advice from him. Could we please address that point? You have been making many points and go off track when I negate your arguments.

[Mikoh4792]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

I don't like repeating myself either but I seem to have to. The fact, that your snake did not digest it's meal would tell me something is wrong with your set up.

All of my snakes are in tubs. ALL of them and there's plenty. None regurge. I don't have this issue. I never do because I maintain a proper enclosure for them all.

If it was regurgitating before, and this was the first time feeding her, it just might not be because of me! I have already told you that my temperatures are correct, that the snake thermoregulates itself with the proper temperatures. You keep bashing me, name-calling me, and try to make me look like a fool.

[lady_bug87]

Originally Posted by Aaron_S

Don't leave me hanging back in my previous post...

<HIGH FIVE>
Feel Better?

Originally Posted by mikoh4792

If it was regurgitating before, and this was the first time feeding her, it just might not be because of me! I have already told you that my temperatures are correct, that the snake thermoregulates itself with the proper temperatures. You keep bashing me, name-calling me, and try to make me look like a fool.

It may not have started with you but it can certainly end with you. We're honestly trying to help

[Mikoh4792]

Originally Posted by lady_bug87

<HIGH FIVE>
Feel Better?



It may not have started with you but it can certainly end with you. We're honestly trying to help

I don't doubt the fact that you guys are trying to help. I appreciate it, however I just need that one point proven wrong to convince me that my setup is wrong.

12x12x18 - temperatures 75-92(cool side fluctuate slightly depending on time of day) -she DOES get warm. She basks <--- some people in this thread seem to miss that part.

I'm just gonna say it again. She uses the hotspot.

The original problem was regurgitation. Now it's only about the enclosure. Someone suggested it was my set up. I just told you guys my argument for why it isn't.

In three words my argument is : She get's warm.

[lady_bug87]

82 is too cold for a warm spot so even of she's basking its not hot enough. It could also be stress. I can't remember if you provided hides if not I would. You can put one on the warm end and add a small heat pad under the tank where the hide is. This way she can hide and feel burrowed while she digests while getting extra heat. They get freaked sometimes if they can't hide while they digest

Edit: I went back and read your original posts I see there is hide and warmer temps. I still think she would benefit from more floor space

[Mikoh4792]

Originally Posted by lady_bug87

82 is too cold for a warm spot so even of she's basking its not hot enough. It could also be stress. I can't remember if you provided hides if not I would. You can put one on the warm end and add a small heat pad under the tank where the hide is. This way she can hide and feel burrowed while she digests while getting extra heat. They get freaked sometimes if they can't hide while they digest

82 or 92? I wrote 82 before by accident and edited it to 92. I don't know if yours was a typo or not.

She has three hides on the ground, and two hides up top(suction cup plants).
I don't however, have a heat pad. I might just get one for the winter so the floor of the enclosure doesn't drop below 75....That is if I even stick with this setup. I'm giving her two weeks to fully recover her digestive fluids and if she regurges again. I will be moving her to a longer than taller enclosure with belly heat.

[Mikoh4792]

Originally Posted by lady_bug87

Edit: I went back and read your original posts I see there is hide and warmer temps. I still think she would benefit from more floor space

Gotcha.

As of right now shes so small I think a 10 gallon would be too big for her.

Shes only a foot long and If i'm not mistaken the general consensus for a minimum of enclosure floor space is a sq ft of floor space for every foot in length of the animal. She can stretch her whole body inside.

[lady_bug87]

Alright well let me know how it goes

After she eats does she perch or hide? If she's hiding and the temp in the hide isn't hot enough that could be the issue