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Originally Posted by mo9e64
What i think is based on the experiences of others,how can it not influence me.If you were the originator of all sucessful husbandry than you might have the right to judge me,but you like me were influenced by others.Those others were not perfect,unless you choose to see it that way.
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Moe, I don't care that it influences you. It's the parroting of it here that annoys me. No, your mate was not the originator of all successful husbandry. You just take everything he claims to be the truth, despite all evidence to the contrary, and repeat it because you haven't had enough experience of your own to have developed good BS filters.
Yes, my husbandry has been partially influenced by other people - keepers that I've spoken to here, in my own country, mostly - and partially has been developed by myself through research, observation and trial and error. I happily share that information through frequent talks at herpetological societies around the country.
The funny thing is, I used to have discussions with your mate many years ago, when I first started keeping monitors, and quickly realised how full of BS he is most of the time. I've gone against much of his dogma and have found much more success that way. There's been a recent argument about that, you may recall, but that's only one example of many things I do that go against his dogma. Yes, he does have good information mixed in with the BS, but you still haven't figured out which is which so you parrot the whole lot together. Here's my advice: Don't repeat the stuff about wild monitors until you've seen monitors in the wild yourself. Once you have your own observations about wild monitors we'll all be happy to read your opinions on them. Until then, stick to talking about what works or doesn't work in captivity without adding stories about who has or hasn't seen what in the wild, because you are only repeating the claims of someone else.
Once again, I repeat (because I can't think of any other way to express it): If you think deep substrate is a good husbandry tool in captivity (I would agree that it is), then say so. Don't parrot your mate's claims about all wild monitors living in burrows, or his claims that no one had ever known this until he observed it.
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Originally Posted by mo9e64
What it takes to raise monitors to old age is out there,that's the sad thing people hold on to ideas which are contradicted by what some keepers are doing.
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Funny you should say that about people holding onto ideas. What do you reckon the lifespan of a female lace monitor is?
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