Keeping snakes without a hotspot

[jjhill001]

Originally Posted by dannybgoode

No this thread is about whether and how to keep reptiles with a basking spot not what the source of a basking spot is it one is provided. Until you mentioned heat rocks no one had discussed heat sources so yes I think this is a separate discussion.

No need to divert the discussion away from what was being discussed here which as I say was about the merits of basking spots or not.

I know from many of your other replies you like to be deliberately antagonistic but please don't ruin threads that have been so interesting. Start your own thread and troll on that all you want.

I think the heat source is at least relevant. Considering the entire discussion is heat based. I however don't understand Doug's overaggressive and dismissive method of conveying his information.

[dannybgoode]

Originally Posted by jjhill001

I think the heat source is at least relevant. Considering the entire discussion is heat based. I however don't understand Doug's overaggressive and dismissive method of conveying his information.

Perhaps but then we are into the realms of the merits of the various heat sources (radiant, mats, visible light and non visible light bulbs etc) which is a topic in itself. More than happy to diverge into these areas if that's the consensus.

[jjhill001]

Originally Posted by dannybgoode

Perhaps but then we are into the realms of the merits of the various heat sources (radiant, mats, visible light and non visible light bulbs etc) which is a topic in itself. More than happy to diverge into these areas if that's the consensus.

Lol, sure lets discuss that!

I think that debate is easy to solve.

Above or below: how thick and what kind of substrate do you have? Very thick, dirt type: Below isn't penetrating it above is the best decision. Relatively thin with comparatively good airflow : Below.

Which type? Above, Radiant, Lightless Bulb, Visible light bulb in that order. Below: Heat pad.

Curve ball: Ambient heat, as discussed previously.

Above method pros: Definitely far and away the most natural.

-Radiant: More spread out, able to adapt to various styles easily including the "sorta ambient" method that jjhill001 the reptile keeping god uses (lol JK but this would be my preferred method). Also is very low profile in terms of added height.

-Lightless Bulb IE Ceramic Heat Emitter: Basically a cheaper version of a radiant heat emitter, much more direct however. Able to pair with a light fixture that produces limited heat that can be on a timer meaning you won't lose heat when the lights go out. Con: the large fixtures needed to spread out the heat are quite tall, almost 5-6 inches, screwing up jjhill001's plan for a taller terrarium IE the stand he's made specifically with room for a 2nd cage.

-Lighted bulb: Natural for sure, however unable to produce heat at night, and a similar effect can be achieved with CHE paired with a light fixture. Pro: cost effective compared to the previously mentioned method which requires two fixtures.

Below method pros: Easy to use, much easier to control.

Heat Pad: various sizes available, helps the "belly heat" people sleep at night. Very easily paired with a thermostat compared to other methods, actually affects ambient heat compared to any other below method. Cons: Has a chance for burning if it screws up, can't penetrate thick substrate.

Heat Rock: Will literally cook your reptile to death 100% of the time. Pet stores sell them so you'll kill your pet and have to buy a new one.

JK on the last one, just picking on Dave a bit lol.

That is at least my opinion on the heating methods available and I think all have their place to be fair although I didn't consider heat tape, back heat or other such things and didn't honestly consider heat rocks. The ideas of heat with snakes are incredibly debatable with enormous amounts of room for debate, strategy differences and interesting information available to people.

If anyone does anything considered weird involving heat with their snakes I encourage sharing.