Moving to germany with reptiles

dinosaurdammit · 11-16-12, 10:11 AM

I need help understanding how to pack my reptiles. I really could use advice on how to get my animals ready for the big pcs- yes its 6 months away but I will be damned if I am unprepared as they are my family. How much would it cost? I get so much conflicting info on the web so if anyone knows of sites with correct info I will love you forever.

I need to ship my:

two CWD (about 2.5 foot long)
two boas (about 5.5 to 6 feet)
one goulds/argus cross (3.5/4 foot)

KORBIN5895 · 11-16-12, 12:02 PM

First you need to get a hold of the united states fish and wildlife service as your boas are class two cites. That means you will probably need a permit.

Zoo Nanny · 11-16-12, 12:03 PM

A good reptile vet will be authorized to complete all of your paperwork along with the chips. There are also companies that will assist with the entire process and permitting for you. This is just an example of one, I can't vouch for them. Pet Shipping & Transportation To or From Any City In The World ! As a heads up if you intend to move back to the US check out the permitting required to come back in also. People I know had a very difficult time bringing their macaw back into the US, it took them a couple of years.

dinosaurdammit · 11-16-12, 07:39 PM

I am having the hardest time finding airlines that ship reptiles. I keep getting the run around, is there anyone i could ship to who would ship them over seas for us? I cant part with them, they mean so much.

Zoo Nanny · 11-17-12, 05:01 AM

Did you check out the websites that ship to different countries? There are quite a few of them available. This company advertises shipping of exotics and all types of animals.
Animal Transport, Animal Shipping, Pet Transport, Pet Shipping, Pet Travel, Pet Relocation - Aark Air International

marvelfreak · 11-17-12, 06:42 AM

You will also need to check on where you are moving to be sure it's legal to keep them and to fine out if you need permits. Plus there's the whole quarantine policy. Shipping exotics international many countries will hold them in quarantine.

dinosaurdammit · 11-17-12, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by marvelfreak

You will also need to check on where you are moving to be sure it's legal to keep them and to fine out if you need permits. Plus there's the whole quarantine policy. Shipping exotics international many countries will hold them in quarantine.

germany doesnt do quarantine on reptiles or dogs/cats with up to date health certs. My only problem is finding someone who will ship them, everything else is covered.

KORBIN5895 · 11-17-12, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dinosaurdammit

germany doesnt do quarantine on reptiles or dogs/cats with up to date health certs. My only problem is finding someone who will ship them, everything else is covered.

You already have a class two cites permit?

Zoo Nanny · 11-17-12, 12:43 PM

I gave you 2 different sites of companies that will ship them. They will also help you get all of the necessary paper work including the cites permits.

Statements from this site Animal Transport, Animal Shipping, Pet Transport, Pet Shipping, Pet Travel, Pet Relocation - Aark Air International
"We are unique in that we transport Small Animals, Large Animals, Exotics, Birds, and Reptiles."
"We provide Airline and USDA Approved Flight Kennels.
We Perform Complete Review of Travel Documents.
Compliance with all Transportation Regulations."

dinosaurdammit · 11-17-12, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

You already have a class two cites permit?

my vet is in the process of getting all the paperwork taken care of

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Originally Posted by Zoo Nanny

I gave you 2 different sites of companies that will ship them. They will also help you get all of the necessary paper work including the cites permits.

Statements from this site Animal Transport, Animal Shipping, Pet Transport, Pet Shipping, Pet Travel, Pet Relocation - Aark Air International
"We are unique in that we transport Small Animals, Large Animals, Exotics, Birds, and Reptiles."
"We provide Airline and USDA Approved Flight Kennels.
We Perform Complete Review of Travel Documents.
Compliance with all Transportation Regulations."

i will have to look into them, most i call WONT deal with reptiles even though their site says they do :/

KORBIN5895 · 11-17-12, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dinosaurdammit

my vet is in the process of getting all the paperwork taken care of

i will have to look into them, most i call WONT deal with reptiles even though their site says they do :/

I highly doubt your vet is getting you a cites permit. That takes a lot of work. Take my advice and call the uswf like I said.

**Aaron_S** · 11-17-12, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoo Nanny

A good reptile vet will be authorized to complete all of your paperwork along with the chips. There are also companies that will assist with the entire process and permitting for you. This is just an example of one, I can't vouch for them. Pet Shipping & Transportation To or From Any City In The World ! As a heads up if you intend to move back to the US check out the permitting required to come back in also. People I know had a very difficult time bringing their macaw back into the US, it took them a couple of years.

You may be experienced with shipping avians or mammals but reptiles aren't like that.

I know people who do it on their own without vets and chips. I know breeders who go to Germany for shows and then come back. Personally, I would contact Bob Clark, possibly NERD or one of the other big ball breeders who regularily ship overseas.

As Kevin stated, call USWF on your own. I would also check your local municipal laws where you plan to stay in Germany to ensure your animals are all legal there.

dinosaurdammit · 11-17-12, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KORBIN5895

I highly doubt your vet is getting you a cites permit. That takes a lot of work. Take my advice and call the uswf like I said.

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Originally Posted by Aaron_S

You may be experienced with shipping avians or mammals but reptiles aren't like that.

I know people who do it on their own without vets and chips. I know breeders who go to Germany for shows and then come back. Personally, I would contact Bob Clark, possibly NERD or one of the other big ball breeders who regularily ship overseas.

As Kevin stated, call USWF on your own. I would also check your local municipal laws where you plan to stay in Germany to ensure your animals are all legal there.

its ok where we are going to have them and the FW center is closed, ive tried calling 3 times.

Zoo Nanny · 11-17-12, 02:12 PM

It's the boas that he will need the chips and documentation for due to the Cites class 2 listing of all boas. I agree with Kevin USWF is the best place to start to get accurate info.

**Aaron_S** · 11-17-12, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoo Nanny

It's the boas that he will need the chips and documentation for due to the Cites class 2 listing of all boas. I agree with Kevin USWF is the best place to start to get accurate info.

Do you need chips just for overseas or over any border?