What's the difference?

iBaman · 10-29-12, 07:58 PM

There seem to be so many types of GTP's...what's the difference between an Aru, Biak, Sorong, Merauke, jaya, etc...I'm leaning towards a GTP for my next snake (in a year or so), and would love to know which ones are better to keep, and what other differences are. =]

jhinton6932 · 10-29-12, 08:22 PM

well i think the localities seem to relate to adult coloration/patterns and overall temperament. im pretty new at gtp's but i have a biak and he is very aggressive.
his coloring is nice though
like i said the GTP guys know way more then me but thats what i've observed so far the little fella'

Edmond Y · 10-29-12, 08:49 PM

Yes there are so many type of localities and designer morphs of GTP and most of them become unclear after many years of captive breeding. Normally if you want bright leon green as adult, Aru type is a good choice, Biak also good because their babies is the most beautiful snake in the world. As for temperament, any snake will run you into trouble if you deal with them at a wrong time. some times the most tame gtp will turn themselves into demon after dark, as such it is the best time to feed them.

This pic is my aru type GTP Blade, so you may have an idea why she is call Blade.

IMO Green tree is the most rewarding aniaml that one can keep.

Edmond

**Aaron_S** · 10-29-12, 09:27 PM

Locales are what biak, aru, sorong and the like are meant for.

Biaks tend to be yellow and green and I believe aru or sorong tend to have more blues. From my knowledge, biak's are usually more aggressive where as aru and sorongs tend to be medium. Some are, some aren't.

iBaman · 10-29-12, 09:30 PM

Good to know. I know they tend to be display animals more than holding ones. I think it's the sorongs and merauke that are blue (at least from what I've been seeing.).

**Aaron_S** · 10-29-12, 09:34 PM

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iBaman · 10-29-12, 09:35 PM

OMG! That blue one is AWESOME!!!!!!!

**Aaron_S** · 10-29-12, 09:49 PM

yeah greg Maxwell is THE man for GTP.

iBaman · 10-29-12, 09:52 PM

Gahhh...As soon as he gets eggs on the ground, I'm totally putting in a reservation (since it'll take about a year anyways ;D)

jhinton6932 · 10-30-12, 03:34 AM

just be careful with blues. iv'e read its a lot of inbreeding and junk to actually get them to be tinted blue without it being simply hormonal blue. lol i ws going to get an aru x aru but went with biak x biak. it just looked prettier to me.

Gungirl · 10-30-12, 04:48 AM

I think you have chosen a great next snake. I love my Biak even though he wants to eat my face off all the time. He is calming down with age, the more his colors change the better he is getting. My guy likes his hot end to be 85-90 and his cool side 75-80 and I keep his humidity around 65-70. He has always eaten and sheds great.. Here is my guy and his set up..

**Aaron_S** · 10-30-12, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by jhinton6932

just be careful with blues. iv'e read its a lot of inbreeding and junk to actually get them to be tinted blue without it being simply hormonal blue. lol i ws going to get an aru x aru but went with biak x biak. it just looked prettier to me.

It's line bred. Very selective breeding for the highest blues. There was/are blue imports though and they have been bred for this trait.

It's no different then the screaming yellow/black jungle carpets. Thinner bands on some milks or kings, or the nuclear kenyan sand boa.

Inbreeding isn't as much of a concern in reptiles as it is in other animals. It's easy crossed out and you don't see problems until generations 5 or 6 or later.

jhinton6932 · 10-30-12, 07:59 AM

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until generations 5 or 6 or later.

thats what ive heard and read. i dont know much about morphing/geneticsthough

**Aaron_S** · 10-30-12, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jhinton6932

thats what ive heard and read. i dont know much about morphing/geneticsthough

Look at corn snakes, ball pythons and boas for example. Probably more so ball pythons. Small clutches and lots of genes to prove out. Things have been outcrossed since but the original mutations were easily bred parent to child, sibling to sibling with no real effects.

Just have to be careful.

shaunyboy · 10-30-12, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Aaron_S

It's line bred. Very selective breeding for the highest blues. There was/are blue imports though and they have been bred for this trait.

It's no different then the screaming yellow/black jungle carpets. Thinner bands on some milks or kings, or the nuclear kenyan sand boa.

Inbreeding isn't as much of a concern in reptiles as it is in other animals. It's easy crossed out and you don't see problems until generations 5 or 6 or later.

i agree mate with morelia you can go right up F5,F6, with no issues

just gotta love Morelia mate

cheers shaun