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06-08-12, 03:59 AM
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handling aggresive snake
I havea jungle carpet python I no they are generally snappy but If I handle him with gloves will it prolong him taming down or not
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06-08-12, 06:36 AM
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Re: handling aggresive snake
The best thing I ever did for taming my jungle carpet was get a small cage hook. I don't think he's bitten me at all since I started using the hook. I just touch him with it and then pick up the front part of his body with it while I carefully but confidently pick up the back half of him with my hand. It works like a charm. My hook is aluminum and maybe 18" long. Just right for smaller snakes but he'll outgrow it at some point and I'll have to get a bigger one.
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06-08-12, 06:53 AM
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Re: handling aggresive snake
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Originally Posted by sniper182
I havea jungle carpet python I no they are generally snappy but If I handle him with gloves will it prolong him taming down or not
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Gloves make things worse,with snakes like this do not think of it as an aggressive snake think of it like its a scared snake,which it is, so your got to show the snake that it has nothing to fear,l've done it in the past like this
1-let the snake settle down and get use to you and your day to day routines
2-only go into the snakes viv in the mornings when the snakes colder with the night time temp' drop
3 start approaching the snake in the said mornings when it cold and start to pick him up the snake is cold and will appreciated your natural body warmth so it will start to associate you with something good - heat
4 be mindful of there the snakes head is pointing and let the snake move about you as freely as pos'.do not panic if the snake start thrashing about a bit but try to let him move
after about a month l can garenty that you will be able to handle you pet
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06-08-12, 09:12 AM
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Re: handling aggresive snake
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Originally Posted by stevenrudge
Gloves make things worse,with snakes like this do not think of it as an aggressive snake think of it like its a scared snake,which it is, so your got to show the snake that it has nothing to fear,l've done it in the past like this
1-let the snake settle down and get use to you and your day to day routines
2-only go into the snakes viv in the mornings when the snakes colder with the night time temp' drop
3 start approaching the snake in the said mornings when it cold and start to pick him up the snake is cold and will appreciated your natural body warmth so it will start to associate you with something good - heat
4 be mindful of there the snakes head is pointing and let the snake move about you as freely as pos'.do not panic if the snake start thrashing about a bit but try to let him move
after about a month l can garenty that you will be able to handle you pet
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Ditto.
Another thing about the gloves being counter-productive is that carpets have those pits along their jaws that detect heat. Wearing gloves will mask some of the body heat around your hands and arms. So in the beginning, the gloves might prevent some teeth from meeting your skin, but at some point, when you decide to take the gloves off, you'll kinda be back at square one in a sense because the snake will be unfamiliar with the scent/heat of your hands. It has only become accustomed to the gloves.
That's why I would just forego the gloves altogether (and hooks, for the same reasons). I'm just one of those people who don't mind getting bit.
If you own snakes, you're going to have to accept the reality of getting bit every once in a while.
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06-08-12, 09:37 AM
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Re: handling aggresive snake
I've never used hooks or gloves. I personally think they only impede progress, but that's just me. I'm a firm believer that if I can't handle my snakes without tools or aides, I've likely chosen the wrong animal for me, lol. I'm funny that way, and about 100 other ways
Oh sure, you may take some hits along the way as you 'tame' your snake, but how else are they going to learn that biting doesn't have the effect they hoped it would?
I've been at this for a quarter century, I've handled hundreds of "out of control" animals that their owners couldn't approach and I've only been tagged 9 times. That kinda screams that I'm doing *something* right. Trust me, it's all in the approach and it's all about earning trust. Respect your snakes and they'll learn to trust you and respect you back
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06-08-12, 10:03 AM
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Re: handling aggresive snake
Todd, I hear you.
I am a firm believer that in a lot these cases, the more afraid you are of getting bit by the reptile, the more likely you will get bit. Those who are hesitant and timid, often making jerky movements when trying to get the "right grip" on the savage beast to avoid a bite are more likely to make a monster than tame one.
I've developed the mentality of just reaching in and grabbing the snake. Don't even give it time to think about biting you. Most of the time, once the snake is out of its familiar habitat, and you're not trying to restrain its head, its content to just explore and crawl around your arms.
If you sit there and play the "Is it gonna bite me/is it not gonna bite me?" game, I guarantee the snake is playing a similar game inside its enclosure of "Is that huge pink 5-headed thing gonna grab me/is it not gonna grab me?" and by the time, you've decided to bite the bullet and get close enough to pick up the snake, it has come to the decision to defend itself.
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06-08-12, 10:05 AM
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Re: handling aggresive snake
StudentoReptile gets 10 points and a
I like where you head's at
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06-08-12, 10:07 AM
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Re: handling aggresive snake
While I agree that confidence and "just doing it" are key factors I still think there's a place for hook training snakes.
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06-08-12, 10:09 AM
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Custos serpentium
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Re: handling aggresive snake
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Originally Posted by Norm66
While I agree that confidence and "just doing it" are key factors I still think there's a place for hook training snakes.
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I didn't say I disagree, I just said it's not for me. I've very old school ya know - a hands-on kinda guy, and I'm very results-oriented
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06-08-12, 10:12 AM
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Re: handling aggresive snake
Yeah, I'm not diametrically opposed to hooks. I have occasionally used them for large snakes that were particularly aggressive feeders on days I just really didn't feel like getting bit.
And obviously, they should be used for working with venomous species.
But in my opinion, if you have a snake that you want to get used to being handled by hands, the best approach is to: use your hands!
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06-08-12, 10:14 AM
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Re: handling aggresive snake
Studento: you just want more cookies and you've already had your rations for this thread
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06-08-12, 11:06 AM
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Re: handling aggresive snake
imo.....
using gloves will get him used to being handled,without getting spooked by the heat signature of your hands
once they settle and stop bitting with the gloves on,its time to take a glove off and get him used to the heat
it has worked for me in the past
it will take a little more time,but imo its less stressfull for an already nervous snake
what age is your jungle mate ?
if its a a hatchling,they usually settle once they get a bit of size and realise your not going to eat them
cheers shaun
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06-08-12, 01:58 PM
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Re: handling aggresive snake
I use hooks and gloves to get my JCP out of his viv because that is where he will bite, once he is outo f the viv the gloves go and the hook goes and he is then fine.
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