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Old 05-31-12, 08:10 PM   #1
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Is this a Jampea? Or any type of dwarf? my first retic

Hey guys first off i posted a pic of this guy last week when i first got him and he has calmed down alot, he is almost ball python tame, but moves around more lol.

But i bought this guy as a Het. Albino Jampea Dwarf Retic. He is amazing, i can't explain the intellegence shown by retics. i never thought it was much of a difference until i acutally got one. (i also see this in anacondas). But further research is leading me to think he may not be a Jampea or even a dwarf at all?(Jampeas have silver eyes) Not that this matters for ME but i think it is wrong that breeders are selling snakes falsley labeled. I heard there are many factors between mainlands and dwarfs, such as head shape, pattern, colour etc. From these pictures i would love for you retic experts out there to possibly identify what type of retic this is. I know there are crosses but what locality/subspecies this is leaning more towards.









Oh and his name is S t r i n g e r (from The Wire)
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Old 05-31-12, 08:15 PM   #2
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******** is beautiful. I can't help you with whether he is Jampea or dwarf... but that is one good-looking retic

Why is his name being blocked out? Is his name a bad word I've never heard of before? lol
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Old 05-31-12, 08:18 PM   #3
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Thanks! and i`m not sure, i had to space it out lol i actually searched up `What does ******** mean?' on google after seeing it blocked out looolll
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Awesome Retic!!
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Hey guys first off i posted a pic of this guy last week when i first got him and he has calmed down alot, he is almost ball python tame, but moves around more lol.

But i bought this guy as a Het. Albino Jampea Dwarf Retic. He is amazing, i can't explain the intellegence shown by retics. i never thought it was much of a difference until i acutally got one. (i also see this in anacondas). But further research is leading me to think he may not be a Jampea or even a dwarf at all?(Jampeas have silver eyes) Not that this matters for ME but i think it is wrong that breeders are selling snakes falsley labeled. I heard there are many factors between mainlands and dwarfs, such as head shape, pattern, colour etc. From these pictures i would love for you retic experts out there to possibly identify what type of retic this is. I know there are crosses but what locality/subspecies this is leaning more towards.









Oh and his name is S t r i n g e r (from The Wire)
You've got a really nice Retic there,it do's not matter if he is not Jampea,you've got to take a lot of this Local classification stuff with a pinch of salt anyway,a real beaut all the same
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Old 06-01-12, 11:02 AM   #6
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Re: Is this a Jampea? Or any type of dwarf? my first retic

if you bought him as a jampea het albino then thats probably what he is. He is mixed, the albino blood comes from normal mainland retics and the jampea is a dwarf. Your animals appearance is more influenced by the albino bloodline, but probably has jampea blood in it
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Bushsnake has it correct..the different morphs of the "dwarf" lines have been bred in from mainland snakes. Therefore, they all have mainland blood in the lines at least in the beginning. That being said, the lines are developed enough that you can have albinos that are 85% or more dwarf. Jampea locale snakes do tend to have silver eyes, but much as it is with carpet pythons, it's very hard to get a pure locality retic these days unless you know the entire lineage from imported founders up.
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Old 06-01-12, 02:21 PM   #8
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You've got a really nice Retic there,it do's not matter if he is not Jampea,you've got to take a lot of this Local classification stuff with a pinch of salt anyway,a real beaut all the same
Thanks and i know it doesnt really change much for me, I just think it would be interesting to know

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if you bought him as a jampea het albino then thats probably what he is. He is mixed, the albino blood comes from normal mainland retics and the jampea is a dwarf. Your animals appearance is more influenced by the albino bloodline, but probably has jampea blood in it
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Bushsnake has it correct..the different morphs of the "dwarf" lines have been bred in from mainland snakes. Therefore, they all have mainland blood in the lines at least in the beginning. That being said, the lines are developed enough that you can have albinos that are 85% or more dwarf. Jampea locale snakes do tend to have silver eyes, but much as it is with carpet pythons, it's very hard to get a pure locality retic these days unless you know the entire lineage from imported founders up.
That all makes perfect sense, so my retic took more of his mainland side?
so in general what locality would you say my retic most resembles.
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But i bought this guy as a Het. Albino Jampea Dwarf Retic. He is amazing, i can't explain the intellegence shown by retics. i never thought it was much of a difference until i acutally got one. (i also see this in anacondas)
Beautiful Retic. I know what you mean about intelligence. Retic and Anacondas both are on a different level when it comes to intelligence than most snakes.
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Like others have said I'm not good with locales but that is a beautiful retic
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Old 06-04-12, 09:11 PM   #11
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Thanks alot guys!
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Old 07-01-12, 09:31 PM   #12
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just got in touch with the breeder today. He told me his dwarfs are in fact Jampea but are crossed with Selayer. After doing research these guys do as well stay a little smaller than the giants (around 15 feet). I can see a little bit of resemblance but who really knows if he's telling the truth or not

Just interesting to know
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Old 07-02-12, 08:50 AM   #13
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Here is a sure way to tell. Wait 5 years, and if it get's 30 feet long and starts eating cows, you can safely say for all practical purposes it is not a dwarf
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Lmao! You're hilarious!
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Old 07-07-12, 08:24 PM   #15
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do they really eat cows xD haha probably not but hey u never know.

you have a VERY beautiful snake, i mean BEAUTIFUL. the eyes are gorgeous
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