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My little green guy, Perry (Peridot) after eating voraciously for months now...decided he did NOT want to eat. *lol* I figured it was coming, since he's way overdue for a shed...but he was soooo fussy! Threw a total hissy fit.
I put the food item in and he freaked and hissed and bumped it away.
Then proceeded to hiss, and flare for minutes afterwards. I finally felt sorry for him (after some pics...he's doing it ALL on his own btw, i'm just holding the camera lol)
and made him stop. He calmed right down, then slithered around his tank to finally settle and stare at me while i fed others in the snake room. Goofy guy! But he's soo cute when mad!
Hoggies are so funny. They are spunky and full of themselves. That's why I love them so much!
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They're rear fanged. They're so mild that you have to be seriously allergic to them (and they have to pretty much insert your finger into your mouth to envenomate you) to have a reaction.
I wish they were not "poisonous" because even though they are rear fanged there is no way in this world my mom would let me have a "poisonous" snake.
Poison is ingested like food - Venom is injected by fangs
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It is generally agreed that hognoses are NOT venomous. There is absolutely no scientific evidence (that I have ever found) to suggest that they are. Their saliva may cause an allergic reaction after a bite, but that could be true for any snake bite.
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Hmm. I think it hits you with the fangs, then the saliva enters through the wound. But depending on your reaction the saliva could prolly still f you up.
Hmm. I think it hits you with the fangs, then the saliva enters through the wound. But depending on your reaction the saliva could prolly still f you up.
They're rear fanged. They're so mild that you have to be seriously allergic to them (and they have to pretty much insert your finger into your mouth to envenomate you) to have a reaction.
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Originally Posted by insignia100
It is generally agreed that hognoses are NOT venomous. There is absolutely no scientific evidence (that I have ever found) to suggest that they are. Their saliva may cause an allergic reaction after a bite, but that could be true for any snake bite.
This information is 100% false.
Hognose snakes are indeed a rear fanged venomous species. When people do have reactions to their bite it is NOT an allergic reaction. I wish people would learn the cases of an allergic reaction and how alergies actually work.
Inspecting bite and follow-up: "There were two groups of tiny holes in the skin about 3/4 of an inch apart. Each site was slightly swollen and clear fluid containing small amounts of blood continued to seep from the wounds. I felt a burning sensation in the immediate area. In about half an hour, minor redness and swelling spread for about two inches around the area of the bites. Fluid still seepted from the punctures and the burning and itching sensations continued. After another two hours, things seemed to have stabilized, so I went to bed.
Monday morning, October 15, when I got up at 4:15 AM, my ankle felt a little sore as though I had bumped it. In the semi-darkness of the room I didn't bother to look at it as I dressed for work. However, as my work day started, so did the discoloration, swelling and burning around the bite area, and the seepage of bloody fluid from the punctures. By the end of my work day at about 2:00 PM, the entire area from my toes to about four inches above the bite had swollen to twice its normal size. A good portion of the area around the ankle from 1-1/2" to 3" above the bite was alarmingly bright red and various large fluid filled blisters had erupted. The entire area of my ankle felt as if it was on fire and the front of my sock was saturated with the reddish fluid seeping from the wounds.
I am not one to run to the doctor for every little thing, but I decided, in this case, it might be the smartest choice and with insurance form in hand, I drove straight to our family doctor. By the time I arrived, one especially large blister under the ankle bone on the left side burned, itched, and appeared ready to burst. One look at this mess and the doctor immediately called the Poison Control Center in Atlanta, GA. Of course they list the hognose snake as n0n-venomous and harmless to man, so there was no help there. Since my vital signs remained normal and all of the symptoms were localized, treatment consisted of an injection of adrenalin in the lower leg as an anti-shock measure, a tetanus shot in the arm, and a massive dose of antibiotics in the rear end. With a bottle of very expensive antibiotics and an appointment for the next morning, I was sent home.
Tuesday morning didn't bring much change. The big blister on the left side of my ankle had grown in size and new areas of redness and blisters had appeared on the right side around the ankle bone and down to the heel of my foot. At the doctor's office I recieved another large dose of antibiotics and the doctor decided to open the large left side blister. Inside of the blister was a large glob of gelled clear fluid which had to be removed, along with the skin. This left a raw area aboout the size of a half dollar. Burning, pain, and swelling still persisted, but the fluid seepage appeared to be lessening.
There was little change on Wednesday except that the bite wounds had sealed and all the fluid loss was from the opened blister area. The swelling seemed less on Thursday morning, but was again as intense by evening. However, the color of the red areas on the right side of the ankle had darkened and expanded and the raw area on the right side had partially dried out.
I saw the doctor again on Friday, the 19th, and he agreed that things were finally turning for the better. The red areas were all darkening and expanding, the skin felt thick, the raw area had dried and formed a scab. The doctor said the red areas were dead tissue that would either be absorbed by the body or peel and slough off in time.
Three weeks after I was bitten, progress was definite. Very little swelling remained. The areas of redness had all turned dark red and had begun to disappear. Those areas that remained peeled constantly. Where the blister was removed there was a nice thick scab and the burning pain had been replaced by a feeling of tightness around the ankle. Although I returned to work after three weeks, it's going to take several more weeks for all remains of the bite to disappear and for the ankle to look normal again.
Seven and one-half weeks post bite, there is still some discoloration and swelling around the ankle. The skin feels very thick and rough and it's still constantly peeling. The area where the blister was opened is healing nicely, although a scar remains. One area by the ankle bone on the right side still has a scab and the original puncture sites remain prominent and more discolored. The skin in the bite area is thicker, peels more, still itches and tends to be sensitized."
Does this really sound like an allergic reaction?
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