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Old 04-25-12, 12:03 PM   #1
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Playfull savannah monitor

So Cassie was being stubborn and not eating very well and I didn't know why. So I tried making the food very fast and she took intrest and ate like a champ, I think she was really bored

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Ha I love it! I like how he got the worm and shook it up! Thanks fir sharing!
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I'd love to get a sav. But I don't think I could give it the care it deserves.. One day I will though...
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Your monitor is not bored. They do not need activities. They just need proper husbandry. Whatever you do, DO NOT give it stuffed animals to play with. LOL.
Plenty of food, places to dig, and nice hot temps will keep your varanid more than occupied.
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Now that's a fast worm...

Wow at one point she tried to use her hand to catch/pin it!
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great video mate

i would love a monitor after watching them on here

but i don't have the space,so i'll settle for seeing all the ones on here

cheers shaun
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great video mate

i would love a monitor after watching them on here

but i don't have the space,so i'll settle for seeing all the ones on here

cheers shaun
Thats what the dwarfs are for. Same awesome Varanid behavior, smaller package.
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I'd love to get a sav. But I don't think I could give it the care it deserves.. One day I will though...
The only reason why I'll never have one = roaches

lolz

Cute vid Brady!
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Your monitor is not bored. They do not need activities. They just need proper husbandry. Whatever you do, DO NOT give it stuffed animals to play with. LOL.
Plenty of food, places to dig, and nice hot temps will keep your varanid more than occupied.


Curious ... why do you say not to give a stuffed animal?
i gave one to my black throat and he carries it around with him and uses it as a pillow. never saw any violent behavior with it, doesn't stress him out.
and I have to say (even tho i am a beginner with varanids), I disagree with your statement that they don't need activities, and that they don't get bored.
from what I have witnessed with Ares (my Black Throat) he loves exploring and actually enjoys being stimulated mentally.

I'm not calling you a liar or anything like that so don't take offence please.
I just think you are underestimating their capability of cognitive and "emotional" reactions.
I am of the opinion that they do in fact have the ability to enjoy, get depressed, get angry, and be happy.
I know alot of people say otherwise,
and I wish I had the link, but there is a video of a guy walking into a pen with like a dozen b/w tegus, and setting down 2 plates of food, and they all completely ignore the food and go to him for attention.
I believe the video has been posted on this forum somewhere (ahem... Wayne?) and if you could come up with another logical reason that they would do that, I am all ears.

Again, you are much more experienced than me, and I have learned alot from you (and others here) so don't take this post as offensive. I'm just curious.

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I just weighed cass!!! She weighs 460
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I just weighed cass!!! She weighs 460
460 grams?
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Yes! Grams.
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Yes! Grams.
Wow, she's smaller than I thought!! She weighs less than Pika! That definitely puts things into perspective for me
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13 inches snout to vent shes tiny
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Curious ... why do you say not to give a stuffed animal?
i gave one to my black throat and he carries it around with him and uses it as a pillow. never saw any violent behavior with it, doesn't stress him out.
and I have to say (even tho i am a beginner with varanids), I disagree with your statement that they don't need activities, and that they don't get bored.
from what I have witnessed with Ares (my Black Throat) he loves exploring and actually enjoys being stimulated mentally.

I'm not calling you a liar or anything like that so don't take offence please.
I just think you are underestimating their capability of cognitive and "emotional" reactions.
I am of the opinion that they do in fact have the ability to enjoy, get depressed, get angry, and be happy.
I know alot of people say otherwise,
and I wish I had the link, but there is a video of a guy walking into a pen with like a dozen b/w tegus, and setting down 2 plates of food, and they all completely ignore the food and go to him for attention.
I believe the video has been posted on this forum somewhere (ahem... Wayne?) and if you could come up with another logical reason that they would do that, I am all ears.

Again, you are much more experienced than me, and I have learned alot from you (and others here) so don't take this post as offensive. I'm just curious.

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One thing you need to learn is it takes a lot more to offend me than you posting your opinion in a post. LOL

Seriously, they are not dogs or companion animals. They do not carry/play with toys or use pillows.

That tegu vid has been around a long time. Many people say its BS and many think it shows them looking for attention. I believe it is BS. Only because I have kept and bred them and do not act like that unless they want to eat, breed, or get out of the cage they are in. Fact is, it is one small frame. We do not know what was out of frame that they were actually focusing on. Also, with all of thos tegus in one cage, why would they want the attention of the owner?

Monitors can learn. That I will admit. However, they are not capable of emotions. Not like the ones complex social mamals are capable of. People anthroporphisize in order to try an "talk" to their pets. The fact is, they do not understand us. I know this from keeping these animals for many years. I also know that many people confuse intellegence with hard wired evolutionary instinctive behaviors.

Like I said, if you provide them with what they need like ample space, proper heat and humidity, and a good diet, they do not need anything else to stimulate them.
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