mystery (king)?(bull)?snake

[jhiggy69]

[jhiggy69]

help what is he ...4.5 ft. built like bull but head like king been to two vets niether is sure

[GarterPython]

I don't know much about looking at snakes and figuring out what they are but I think it is just a big king snake.

[jhiggy69]

i wish i could get a better picture that shows how "squared"(lack of better word) ,buffed build he has and his pattern is alot like a gopher or bull snake dont you think?

[youngster]

Is it possible it's a hybrid? Head definitely looks king but the body looks like a bull/gopher.

[jhiggy69]

iguess i dont know much about that kind of stuff .... ijust would like to get another like him ...dont know where to mstart

[Kingsnakechris]

Def. A king of some sort.... Possibly an escaped hybrid??

[jhiggy69]

all i know is hes cool as hell ....you can see the gears turning in his head all the time

[TremTricolors]

Can you give me a little more info? Is he/she wild caught? If so, do you know where?If captive bred and born unless the parents are available to post pictures of it may be hard to truly identify.
For a preliminary identification, it looks to be a an intergrade between L.g.californiae (California Kingsnake) and L.g.splendida(Desert Kingsnake). They are usually found in the south central part of AZ, or there about. It's is a great looking kingsnake though

[jhiggy69]

all i know is the owner was trying to give it away because he was worried about having vet bills (the snake *hercules* has an odd kind of shiver/shudder on his rear half of his body) he said he bought him from somebody online about 8 or 9 years prior to giving him to me (ive had him 2 years now) vet pointed out to me a whole lot of old scars up and down his whole body she said it looked to her like like he had been badly chewed up by a cat or dog when he was small......probabally explaining the shudders ...(nerve damage) hes healthy and doing fine so ..........i have pretty much no info on the snake thats why i was asking online










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Can you give me a little more info? Is he/she wild caught? If so, do you know where?If captive bred and born unless the parents are available to post pictures of it may be hard to truly identify.
For a preliminary identification, it looks to be a an intergrade between L.g.californiae (California Kingsnake) and L.g.splendida(Desert Kingsnake). They are usually found in the south central part of AZ, or there about. It's is a great looking kingsnake though


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[Jlassiter]

I agree with Jimmy....
It is possibly a Calking X Desert King intergrade typically found in Arizona......
Not a hybrid that I can tell....especially not with a pituophis......

[RossCA]

Originally Posted by jhiggy69

It could be a reverse dotted Cal king like this:



Or a Desert king X Cal king intergrade from AZ like this.

[alessia55]

I was going to suggest it's someone's escaped cali king snake... hmm

[StudentoReptile]

I agree that it is a kingsnake. Definitely some heavy desert influence.