Boas are in the ban crosshairs

[millertime89]

HR511 has all of the "Big 9" on it and has moved to the House floor. Its got quite a bit of support there. If a companion bill is introduced in the Senate (and its only a matter of time) it won't be long before your boas will become illegal to transport across state lines. You guys are in the crosshairs now, get active. So far its the retic, burm, conda, and A/I rock people that have been carrying this fight, time to do your part.

http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/epicr...back-dead.html

http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/gener...-511-asap.html

[Terranaut]

Wow. There is a serious problem with your government. I can even understand banning huge snakes in states where its warm enough for them to damage the local eco system and survive the winter but boas??? Come on. Can't see a boa surviving Michigan winter or New York State. Will it be 100% illegal or will you need an interstate commerce permit?
So guns are ok but snakes not. Give me a break!!

[millertime89]

The ONLY places where the big ones can survive are 3 counties in Florida (the everglades counties) and the most extreme southern tip of Texas.

[millertime89]

here, a little reading material for you guys
Pythons Make Strange Bedfellows; House Judiciary Markup on Python Ban Could Compound Economic Woes Dealt to Reptile Industry by Obama Administration - MarketWatch

[lady_bug87]

^^^ just like when that crazy idiot said that if you have a large constrictor in Ontario and it escapes it will destroy the ecosystem in Ontario.... Canada. Through the winter.

[Terranaut]

Maybe they think "het snow" means winter tolerable??

[Valvaren]

For the canadians I just want to let you know you think this might be far from us but a town not 15 mins drive from me is currently trying to put in affect a ban that will ban snakes that grow over 2 feet and a ban on all arachnids. I can't link to the actual bylaw information itself but you can go to Home | Town of Windsor and download it to review yourself. We currently have people meeting to help change/squash this but let it be known that because of this other places in Canada will attempt to follow suit!.

Emailing and doing what I can for the US to help you guys in your fight against this BS.

[millertime89]

Originally Posted by Valvaren;693582[url=http://www.town.windsor.ns.ca/

Home | Town of Windsor[/url]

Dog control bylaw #38?

[Valvaren]

No its bylaw 42, that link was somewhat useless. I have a post from my other forum where it was posted that listed the information but I can't seem to find any on that page other it then the second reading being done today.

[Valvaren]

This is the post from my other forum, our reptile societies are meeting with them tonight and have been in communication with the Department of Natural Resources to help try to squash this. I'm sorry I don't have more information.


The Town of Windsor, Nova Scotia is proposing a Exotics Pets Bylaw. This bylaw, if passed, will limited all snakes to under 2 feet, no arachnids and includes a "destroy on site" provision for any banned animal found in town. Check out the bylaw at the link below.

Home | Town of Windsor

As I am sure the majority of you are aware a 2 foot limit on snakes is basically a complete ban on all snakes. The council has been quoted as saying they are doing this “...for the protection of citizens, first responders at a scene, and the general public.”

NSHS is preparing a formal letter to Windsor town council which outlines our position and will be at the reading of the bylaw.

We encourage all reptile keepers, even non residents of Windsor, to speak out against this bylaw. This bylaw, if passed, could set a very dangerous example if other towns/municipalities look at implementing similar bylaws. Eventually our hobby could be out lawed if we stand by and do nothing.

We encourage everyone to write a letter to the editor of the Hants Journal in order to make the public aware of the issue. Please remember to keep these letters respectful and intelligent. Disrespectful, irate letters will only work to hurt our cause. To submit a letter to the editor email Carole Morris-Underhill at editor@hantsjournal.ca and include your full name, community and phone number (used only to confirm you sent the letter, not published).

[Valvaren]

Actually if you go here Document Details | 42 Exotic Pet Bylaw - Proposed Feb 2012 | Town of Windsor and click view you can see the bylaw and where it states about the 2 foot rule and other animals that would be banned.

[lady_bug87]

I know Oshawa already has a ban in place and toronto's bylaw is a 3m limit

[Terranaut]

But Hamilton just weny the other way and move up to 3meters for snakes and 2 for lizards.
I just don't get why we have bans here at all. Nothing is going to survive -10 outside other than indigenous stuff anyway = no chance of more than 3-4 months out feeding so even if they took prey every 2 weeks thats 6-8 animals per lost pet = who frickin cares. How many releases would become bird food anyway? This is all just a big "look at me" political tactic here in Canada and in most of the US as well. What a wave of crap. I feel like Po in Kung Fu Panda " this may be the end of Kung Fu" ..... " ahh man I just got Kung Fu"

If I see one good thing about this is many people who sell snakes are worried and prices have fallen on many species. This puts them in reach of more people and younger people who will grow up knowing the truth about snakes and how truly enjoyable they are.
The youth of today are our leaders tomorrow. Educate them.

[Gungirl]

I understand how important this is to most of us but do you really need to create a new thread every day about the bans? why not keep posting in 1 thread?

[exwizard]

Iowas snake laws are a patchwork as Ive stated elsewhere. Iowa bans Retics, Anacondas and African Rocks. Des Moines limits everything else to 6' unless you have a permit. There are other cities and counties that ban snakes entirely. Yeah, I dont get it either. These laws and ordinances are usually written by ignorant lawmakers that dont know any better I guess.