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Old 02-19-12, 12:20 PM   #1
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Genetic thinking, and breeding help.

Okay... i have been on worldofballpythons.com for about 2 hrs now looking...
im thinking of breeding so i was looking at the 2 hets i have, male het albino %50 HET PIED, and a het albino female, both are 100% het albino..

my male is het albino, %50 het pied and my female is het albino.

im having trouble trying to incoorperate the %50 het pied into the breeding... im using world of ball python, that does not give you an option to put in %'s...

so... could i get a male het pied and breed the 2 males to my female het albino?

can 2 males be bred to 1 female?

that would give me 100% het albino male, %50 ph pied AND a 100% het pied to a het albino female....

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can i breed 2 or 3 males to 1 female
can i breed different males, to different females in the same season


for personal reasons i do NOT want to get an albino het pied for this.. my main goal i said is to produce my own albino, as they are my favorite morph... breeding wise i want to produce an albino pied... so buying a albino het pied would be a great idea for that, it will take away from my main goal.

i did just see prices for albino pied, there is a m and f on kingsnake classified and they were listed as, 2011 Albino Piebalds:
Male... $17,500
Female... $11,000

directly copied from the ad^^
not sure why the male is more...??

thanks for all the help, this will be my main thread for all breeding questios...
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Old 02-19-12, 12:24 PM   #2
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Re: Genetic thinking, and breeding help.

A male can breed multiple females is one reason for higher priced males.
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Re: Genetic thinking, and breeding help.

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A male can breed multiple females is one reason for higher priced males.
so theroetically i could breed:

het albino %50 ph pied MALE het abino FEMALE
het pied MALE ---------->


not that there is a reason to breed the het pied to a het albino, just using it for an example.
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Re: Genetic thinking, and breeding help.

when the snakes are young the male will cost more because you can breed the males earlier then the young females.
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when the snakes are young the male will cost more because you can breed the males earlier then the young females.
ohh okay, thanks!

what is the best age/wieght to breed for males and females?
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Re: Genetic thinking, and breeding help.

i think for males is 500g and about a year old and females is 1500g(smallest you should go) 2 to 3 years old.

im breeding my girl and right now she is 1745g and 3 years old
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Re: Genetic thinking, and breeding help.

So far, im thinking of getting:

1.1 het pied
0.1 pastel

then i will get a mojave, spider, cinny...

not sure if i will get males or females of those though, probably female.
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Old 02-19-12, 12:46 PM   #8
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i think for males is 500g and about a year old and females is 1500g(smallest you should go) 2 to 3 years old.

im breeding my girl and right now she is 1745g and 3 years old
thanks, i didnt realize that the females had to be that old... maybe instead of babies, i should get some already grown?
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Re: Genetic thinking, and breeding help.

yeah if you get babies you are going to have to wait 2 years to breed,breeding them at a young age can kill your BP. might want to look around and find some that about about 900g you might miss this years season but you have time to get them to size for next season.
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Re: Genetic thinking, and breeding help.

i will look around... do you konw any good places to buy from? ive been cruising kingsnake all day found some good deals, i think, but hard to trust online buying...

cant make it to the expo i go to till April...

i dont look to start breeding anytime soon any way, probably 1-2 yrs any ways... need to learn all i can, and get my new racks built, and new reptile room built in my basement.. so im just doing research and all that now.
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Re: Genetic thinking, and breeding help.

i like to buy from Ssscales.com he is a great guy but sells out fast and RoyalConstrictorDesigns.com
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i like to buy from Ssscales.com he is a great guy but sells out fast and RoyalConstrictorDesigns.com
Thanks so much! i am off to go check them out!
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Re: Genetic thinking, and breeding help.

for your original question there is a very small chance that the babies will be het pied so to cover you you should sell the babies for 50% het pied. Otherwise if someone does NOT want a pied then you will be screwed and get yourself a bad reputation
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for your original question there is a very small chance that the babies will be het pied so to cover you you should sell the babies for 50% het pied. Otherwise if someone does NOT want a pied then you will be screwed and get yourself a bad reputation
Considering the male is fifty percent het pied and obviously not proven I would label them as any percentage of het pied. That's just asking for trouble.
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Re: Genetic thinking, and breeding help.

I'm getting a her pied female to breed him to too... but I might also get a her pied male, they are cheap so I will have a set of her albinos, and a set of her pied.... this way I don't have to take into account for the %50 Ph poet male...
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