Hybrids?

Mathayus · 01-17-12, 08:26 PM

What are everyone's feelings on hybrids? I posted a pic of my snow corn x albino nelson milk on the vertebrates section of Arachnoboards, and just about everyone there abhors hybrids of any kind. What are your thoughts?

By the way, here's a pic of my gorgeous girl Orchid

theapexgerman · 01-17-12, 09:15 PM

i love hybrids nice looking nelson mine kinda dull but old tho =D people said i shouldn't breed my albino nelson male to a female albino het Honduran milk

red ink · 01-17-12, 09:25 PM

Some hybrids can be pretty, but not a fan of hybridisation sorry

FangsAnarchy · 01-17-12, 09:28 PM

I love hybrids, mostly because genetics fascinate me. This isn't just with snakes though, I think things such as a mule, zorse, wolffin, liger ect are amazing. Pretty snake though

Swany · 01-17-12, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by FangsAnarchy

I love hybrids, mostly because genetics fascinate me. This isn't just with snakes though, I think things such as a mule, zorse, wolffin, liger ect are amazing. Pretty snake though

Iv'e never heard of a Zorse, but I'm guessing a Zebra/Horse. Whats the fin in Wolffin ? If you dont mind me asking

red ink · 01-17-12, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Swany

Whats the fin in Wolffin ?

A wolf and a dolphin?
A wolf and a fish?
A wolf and an elf?

Swany · 01-17-12, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by red ink

A wolf and a dolphin?
A wolf and a fish?
A wolf and an elf?

that made me laugh :-D Mental image of a dog with a little green pointy hat

FangsAnarchy · 01-17-12, 09:43 PM

Whale and dolphin I think my text book spelled it with two F's though. It has been a while since I took a zoo class.
Also a zorse is zebra stallion and a horse mare
a hebra is the other way around
Hybrids are named based on which was the sire and which species was the dam. Although I think you can breed a zorse to another zorse. I could be wrong since most hybrids are not able to breed... I love speciation and cladagrams and all that jazz.

Swany · 01-17-12, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mathayus

What are everyone's feelings on hybrids? I posted a pic of my snow corn x albino nelson milk on the vertebrates section of Arachnoboards, and just about everyone there abhors hybrids of any kind. What are your thoughts?

By the way, here's a pic of my gorgeous girl Orchid

Cool looking snake, I'm new to snake keeping and dont know enough to comment. Sorry for sidelining your thread

Cheers

Swany · 01-17-12, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by FangsAnarchy

Whale and dolphin I think my text book spelled it with two F's though. It has been a while since I took a zoo class.
Also a zorse is zebra stallion and a horse mare
a hebra is the other way around
Hybrids are named based on which was the sire and which species was the dam. Although I think you can breed a zorse to another zorse. I could be wrong since most hybrids are not able to breed... I love speciation and cladagrams and all that jazz.

Thanks for the info. it just got me wondering.

Cheers

Norm66 · 01-17-12, 09:51 PM

Nice looking snake. I'm more knowledgeable about fish than I am reptiles and to be honest I'm pretty much against them with fish but not for the animals themselves, but rather that they're often mis-represented as pure whatever when in fact they're hybrids. Most 'purists' in the fish hobby (cichlids at least) consider fish spawning of the same species but different localities to be hybrids as well.

For myself I have the same opinion for fish or reptiles: so long as it's not mis-represented as pure then I don't have a problem with hybrids. In fact a lot of them are pretty neat, yours for example.

peterm15 · 01-17-12, 09:59 PM

Nice snake but i do not agree with hybrids.

KORBIN5895 · 01-17-12, 10:26 PM

Personal feelings aside that's hot.

shaunyboy · 01-17-12, 10:40 PM

i am pretty open minded regards hybrids

i have NO problem with the people who breed them

i've heard the purists arguement of.....

its NOT NATURAL,as snakes from a different continents,would never meet in the wild

i think that arguement it utter crap...!!

why.....?

because,its also NOT NATURAL,to keep any reptile in little wooden boxes

so then,should ALL snakes be released into the wild or stop being kept,under the same reason purists say hybrids should not be created.....

that being ITS NOT NATURAL

they also claim its man playing god,again not natural.....

yet imo purist do the exact same thing,play god...

lets face it right from the start,THEY select all the snakes in their collections,THEY then choose which exact two will breed with each other

whether it be to keep bloodlines pure,or to attain the best looking examples,of the pure breed they're working with at the time.imo none of which is NATURAL,its all controlled by the purist,who is meant to be against playing god

so i say as long as the breeder isn't creating deformed snakes,with poor life quality,they should hybridise anything they want

in creating hybrids we further our knowledge of genetics and can create some good looking snakes in the proccess

cheers shaun

peterm15 · 01-17-12, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by shaunyboy

i am pretty open minded regards hybrids

i have NO problem with the people who breed them

i've heard the purists arguement of.....

its NOT NATURAL,as snakes from a different continents,would never meet in the wild

i think that arguement it utter crap...!!

why.....?

because,its also NOT NATURAL,to keep any reptile in little wooden boxes

so then,should ALL snakes be released into the wild or stop being kept,under the same reason purists say hybrids should not be created.....

that being ITS NOT NATURAL

they also claim its man playing god,again not natural.....

yet imo purist do the exact same thing,play god...

lets face it right from the start,THEY select all the snakes in their collections,THEY then choose which exact two will breed with each other

whether it be to keep bloodlines pure,or to attain the best looking examples,of the pure breed they're working with at the time.imo none of which is NATURAL,its all controlled by the purist,who is meant to be against playing god

so i say as long as the breeder isn't creating deformed snakes,with poor life quality,they should hybridise anything they want

in creating hybrids we further our knowledge of genetics and can create some good looking snakes in the proccess

cheers shaun

peta???

just kidding btw.

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so i say as long as the breeder isn't creating deformed snakes,with poor life quality,they should hybridise anything they want

in creating hybrids we further our knowledge of genetics and can create some good looking snakes in the proccess

I do disagree with this though. A milk and a corn genetically have as much in common as an ape and a human. Creating these snakes could open up a big can of worms that none of us are prepared for.

Honesty though im not trying to discredit the op or the snake. It is a very nice looking animal. To bad its probably a mule because it would make some ver nice offspring.