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08-13-11, 06:16 PM
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BP Female bred by accident, not big enough, what will happen to her?
Hi there,
I have a pastel het pied female ball python that is 745 grams. I also have a male pastel het pied male that is 500 grams. I am running out of room and trying to get some new enclosures set up so I put the male in with the female, figuring that it is the middle of summer, and she is way too small to breed so didn't think it would be a problem. I went to pick up the male to feed him and low and behold he is locked with her! I didn't think she could breed at such a small weight and I am very concerned about her health and what this will do to her. Will she lay eggs? If so is this going to be detrimental to her health? Why would she lock with him if she isn't big enough to have babies? Please, if anybody has any insight please let me know. Thanks so much.
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08-13-11, 06:34 PM
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Re: BP Female bred by accident, not big enough, what will happen to her?
I don't have bp's, but in general, the snakes wouldn't be breeding if they weren't ready.
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08-13-11, 07:09 PM
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Re: BP Female bred by accident, not big enough, what will happen to her?
Regardless if she's 'ready' to breed or not there's a good chance she'll die if she does develop the eggs.
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08-13-11, 07:54 PM
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Re: BP Female bred by accident, not big enough, what will happen to her?
Is there anything he can do? Shes what 750 grams short of the 1500 gram minimum (i think thats what it is)
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08-13-11, 09:56 PM
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Re: BP Female bred by accident, not big enough, what will happen to her?
You could try being a little nicer you know every post Ive seen you make has been either mean or uncalled for Imo. Yes its something he shouldnt have done but it was obviously an accident and as much as I know It could and should have been avoided you shouldn't rip on him, his snake might die pretty sure thats lesson enough without you rubbing his face in It.
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08-13-11, 10:05 PM
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Re: BP Female bred by accident, not big enough, what will happen to her?
I screwed up once with one of my dogs and she got tied up with a dog when I did not want to breed her at all. It was stupid and irresponsible and I learned from the mistake. Luckily for me, I just took her straight to my vet and she gave her a shot to prevent the pregnancy. Don't know if there is anything like that for snakes or not.
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08-13-11, 10:08 PM
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Re: BP Female bred by accident, not big enough, what will happen to her?
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Regardless if she's 'ready' to breed or not there's a good chance she'll die if she does develop the eggs.
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Like I said, I don't keep BP's, but I've yet to lose a snake from breeding 'too early'.
Is this a common problem with BP's? I can't imagine that this trait would carry on if it resulted in death for the female
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08-13-11, 10:10 PM
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Re: BP Female bred by accident, not big enough, what will happen to her?
Well its not like she could run away and if they are anything like bearded dragons, males reach sexual maturity much earlier then females and will breed females even if they arent.
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08-13-11, 10:40 PM
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Re: BP Female bred by accident, not big enough, what will happen to her?
Hey I don't appreciate the hatefulness but I do understand being frustrated with irresponsible people. I truly thought there was no way this would happen as nobody as been cooled, every body is still eating and this is a temporary thing, literally only a few days! I'm sorry if I offended anybody, I am not trying to be irresponsible, just trying to expand room for these guys and know better than to put two fellas together! I'm truly shocked that he is trying to breed right now, it is middle of summer and it is hot as heck, their temps are regular, seriously no cooling at all. I will be devastated if I lose her, especially at my own doing but will do everything in power to ensure she is taken care of. Has anybody ever heard of this happening, a female bp at such a low weight? Safe weight is twice this for sure! Again any thoughts or insights appreciated, although try to keep the hatefulness to a minimum please, I am only human and am doing to best I can to make sure these guys are more than adequately taken care of and had a huge error in judgement, not on purpose. Thanks again.
Robin
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08-13-11, 10:46 PM
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Re: BP Female bred by accident, not big enough, what will happen to her?
Hey sorry if I came off rude, I know you didnt mean it and I'm sorry it happened, I'm not sure on what you can do as I dont know the finer points of breeding balls. Also just ignore that other guy he has been harrassing people a lot from what I've read. I really hope someone can help you and your girl. I've seen a lot of people throw animals together, knowing better and I feel those are the people who deserve remarks. It was an accident you'll learn from it, even though its a terrible thing to happen.
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08-13-11, 11:49 PM
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Re: BP Female bred by accident, not big enough, what will happen to her?
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Hey sorry if I came off rude
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Oh no Valvaren you are great, I was just talking about some of the other snide comments, I really appreciate your comments and understanding. Thanks so much for the support, its really nice. I have definitely learned a hard lesson.
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08-14-11, 12:32 AM
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Re: BP Female bred by accident, not big enough, what will happen to her?
if she does get eggbound i BELIEVE the vet can go into the belly with a syringe and makes the eggs smaller so they can be passed without killing said snake.
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08-14-11, 08:34 AM
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Re: BP Female bred by accident, not big enough, what will happen to her?
She most likely will not become gravid but if by very slim chance she does then she will lay small eggs or possibly slug out.
...but I dont think you have much to worry about.
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08-16-11, 02:01 PM
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Re: BP Female bred by accident, not big enough, what will happen to her?
Just hope what Julian said comes true. She may not actually "take" but there's still a chance. Just feed her on a very regular basis in case she does.
For the people who think I'm too rude I just say I'm not here to sugar coat things because someone made a mistake that was 100% preventable.
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02-01-12, 12:13 AM
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Re: BP Female bred by accident, not big enough, what will happen to her?
Let he who hath not sinned cast the first stone...
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