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06-16-10, 06:28 PM
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Lethargic milk snake
I've had Jonas about two weeks. He hasn't eaten for me yet. For the last few days, he hasn't left his hide at all. I picked him up today to check on him, and at first he seemed almost limp. He just draped himself over my arm. After ~30 seconds he seemed to "wake up" and sort of lazily slithered around, and anchored himself with his tail. It has been approximately 4 weeks (by the store's estimate) since he shed.
Could this lethargy and limpness be a sign of serious illness, or should I just let him be and see if it's just him going into shed? His eyes haven't clouded, or if they have they've already unclouded.
His vent is clean, and I found no sign of mites.
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06-16-10, 06:43 PM
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Re: Lethargic milk snake
When you get him out does he flick his tongue a lot? I say get him to a vet and getting him check out would be wise. May have worms or something internally wrong.
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06-19-10, 11:01 AM
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Re: Lethargic milk snake
Took him to the vet today, vet tube fed him a mix with an antibiotic and a drug to induce hunger. An hour in a snake bag to the vet, and 90 minutes in the snake bag in the waiting room "cured" him of his lethargy temporarily, so he was "normal" for the vet (isn't that always the case?). Luckily he took my word for it, and was as concerned as I was. He says if he doesn't liven up and start eating, bring him back. Here's hoping he starts eating and stops doing his limp noodle impression.
On the way home, my wife didn't tie the bag shut before she sat him on the back seat. Five minutes from home I glance behind me and see the bag is empty.... 20 minutes of tearing the car apart, and 20 minutes of total panic later we found him inside the back seat (we had to dismantle the back seat) we were terrified that he'd managed to get out of the car while we were driving down the road. From now on snake bags go inside critter carriers.
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06-19-10, 03:05 PM
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Re: Lethargic milk snake
Glad you found him. Hope he starts eating.
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06-19-10, 04:04 PM
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Re: Lethargic milk snake
what temp are you keeping his enclosure?
also, i have a pueblan milk snake......... is he Apricot or what?
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06-19-10, 07:21 PM
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Re: Lethargic milk snake
His enclosure is at ~80 degrees. Ambient for the reptile room.
No, he's not apricot.
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06-19-10, 09:39 PM
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Re: Lethargic milk snake
yea 80 is fine, but arnt pueblans great!
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06-20-10, 03:08 AM
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Re: Lethargic milk snake
He's a wonderful snake, I'm just worried about him.
Called the store where I got him on the vet's advice to find out exactly what they were feeding him (live mice) and tried that, but he still refused. Will try again in a few days.
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06-20-10, 06:55 AM
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Re: Lethargic milk snake
Sigh, this morning, s(he)'s prolapsed. Looks like it's back to the vet tomorrow.
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06-20-10, 07:30 AM
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Re: Lethargic milk snake
meanwhile, use a damp towel or something besides substrate in the cage. Don't want anything sticking to the prolapse.
Bummer news! sorry to have to read this.
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06-20-10, 07:41 AM
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Re: Lethargic milk snake
aww thats not good,
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06-20-10, 02:32 PM
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Re: Lethargic milk snake
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Originally Posted by infernalis
meanwhile, use a damp towel or something besides substrate in the cage. Don't want anything sticking to the prolapse.
Bummer news! sorry to have to read this.
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Ever since the prolapse, he's been soaking in his water dish, I take this as a good sign.
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06-21-10, 10:00 AM
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Re: Lethargic milk snake
Back from the vet part deux!
Vet gave me antibiotic injections for him, and told me to put anti biotic ointment on his vent (his prolapse had gone back in this morning, but he was still "gaping" from being swollen down there). If he starts prolapsing again, it's back to the vet, and he'll put in a suture to hold the vent closed until it heals.
When I picked him up yesterday night to check on his prolapse, I thought he was dead. He just hung there limply in my hands, not moving and not even flicking his tongue... then today at the vet he was bright eyed and bushy tailed. I swear, if he keeps this up, I'm just going to bring a rat with me to the vet and feed him there.
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06-21-10, 10:22 AM
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Re: Lethargic milk snake
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Originally Posted by Nafun
I swear, if he keeps this up, I'm just going to bring a rat with me to the vet and feed him there.
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LOL nice one.
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06-25-10, 09:18 AM
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Re: Lethargic milk snake
Here's a pic of jonas in his sick bed.
I'm keeping him on paper towels. He gets antibiotic injections every 3 days, and neosporin on his vent twice a day. The swelling has gone down on his vent, but he's still refusing food. Hopefully he gets over this soon.
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