So it begins, 2009 Diamond eggs

gonesnakee · 03-31-09, 05:25 PM

A quick crappy pic, but eggciting for me anyway LOL 1rst batch of the year here for 2009. I'll be stealing these here later this afternoon. Oh & of course she never used her nesting box despite 2 being offered

LOL At least she didn't go for under the heatpad again this year as I thought she was going too. THX Mark

st3v3n · 03-31-09, 05:53 PM

nice dude congrats!!

Smilts · 03-31-09, 09:07 PM

cool I figure to see alot of these in the near future its getting to be that time of the year. Congrats.

Kmef07 · 03-31-09, 09:15 PM

Nice dude congrats

Chu'Wuti · 03-31-09, 09:36 PM

Wow, Mark! Congratulations! It looks like a healthy batch for the most part--how many?

gonesnakee · 03-31-09, 09:38 PM

THX folks! Looks like she laid around 33? not positive (don't really care at this point either LOL). There was 2 slugs & the one badly nippled egg was really small so they were tossed leaving around 30. 2 of the 30? are nippled as well but not too bad so we will see about them over time if they make it if they are fertile. I was happy to see them & her NOT under the heatpad for a change LOL
She had left them fro a drink? so it was an easy steal. A couple lil hisses & then a lot of looking for them once they were gone like a good Momma. "Hey where did they go?" LOL THX Mark

gonesnakee · 03-31-09, 10:20 PM

A look at the clutch of eggs incubating

Mom still wondering where they went to?

Cheers Mark

**Aaron_S** · 04-01-09, 02:54 PM

Have you ever let a female incubate the eggs herself?

gonesnakee · 04-01-09, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron_S

Have you ever let a female incubate the eggs herself?

Are you meesig with me for April Fools IE: crossposting LOL because I'm off to another forum to copy the answer & then paste it here LOL Mark

gonesnakee · 04-01-09, 02:57 PM

Taken from the ERAS forums LOL Mark

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Nope, no disrespect to Momma but I do a much better job LOL Also the female hs already not seen a meal for going on 2 months plus. If her eggs were left with her she likely would go another couple with no meals. Plus I can control the temps & humidity better than her, nothing can get turned upside down or squished in an incubator. Babies can't get out of the tub they are in in the incubator but could get everywhere & even out of Mommas cage etc.
I think it would be cool to try once maybe, but not with Diamond eggs LOL
I have a JCP here that ws maternally incubated & know a few folks that have done so with various Pythons as well. THX Mark

Kmef07 · 04-01-09, 09:27 PM

mark i know you know a hell of a lot more than i do but snakes are extremely well adapted to incubate their own eggs. they can keep them at a much better temp and humidity than an incubator ever can. I have been doing a lot of research because next year im planning on breeding and i wanted to know which was better. the snakes whole body is programed to have babies and it doesn't stop at the mating part. They have evolved to do it near flawlessly. A couple texts I have read say they can control the temperature of the eggs to within .0001 of what they want it to be and they can control the humidity to make it whatever they want also. lastly they know the ideal conditions they want their eggs at to be successful. their whole species relies on the ability to birth babies.

Again I know you know a ton more than i do and im not trying to show u up but this is what i have found through some credible sources.

Chu'Wuti · 04-01-09, 09:33 PM

Wow, Kyle, you are braver than I expected.

Ummm . . . think I'll try to distract him while you escape . . .

Mark, are the dimples potentially a bad sign? Why does that happen? And what appears to be a brown spot on one of the eggs . . . is that bad?

gonesnakee · 04-01-09, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chu'Wuti

Wow, Kyle, you are braver than I expected.

Ummm . . . think I'll try to distract him while you escape . . .

Mark, are the dimples potentially a bad sign? Why does that happen? And what appears to be a brown spot on one of the eggs . . . is that bad?

If you read the above posts it tells a bit about the 2 "nippled" eggs. As for the dimpling or deflated look. All Python eggs are like that when first laid. Like part full water ballons kinda. They fill out more over time. When you first feel them its hard to believe their even going to have babies in them.
As for maternal incubation its not a new thing afterall LOL I think mothers of all sorts of species do just fine without any interaction from man. That said read what I said before as thats the just of it

Mark

Chu'Wuti · 04-02-09, 02:46 AM

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If you read the above posts it tells a bit about the 2 "nippled" eggs. As for the dimpling or deflated look. All Python eggs are like that when first laid. Like part full water ballons kinda. They fill out more over time.

So I take it 1) the brown spots I'm seeing are what you are calling the "nippled" eggs and that you're taking a "wait & see" attitude towards them, and 2) the dimpling is normal.

Thank you for explaining, Mark. I'm trying to learn all I can before I try breeding anything myself!

citysnakes · 04-02-09, 09:47 AM

good looking clutch Mark. im sure they'll all hatch! good luck!