SNOW hatchlings have arrived!! (pics)

[Reptile Kings]

Our first Snow hatchling arrived this morning (June 15/05), and what a little beauty she is! We are so excited to be working with this fine morph, it truly is unique.
She is a result of the pairing btwn Le Stat and Cookie.
There's still many Snow eggs incubating, and we should have every clutch hatching a couple weeks apart.

We may put up a few for sale towards the end of the year! Make sure to be on our waiting list.

Here are some pics


Another shot


Hope you enjoyed!
-Sam

[Betty Miskie]

Nice baby Sam! Good luck for the busy "snow" year.
Betty

[DragnDrop]

Looks good, Sam.
I'm trying to figure out how to tell them apart since the co-doms aren't that common here yet.
Are those the super 'stay white' co-dom genetic snows from Linda or the line/selectively bred ones?

[The Dragon Lady]

Very nice Sam, they are great looking snows. L

[Painted Desert]

Nice Snow Sam They are the line breds, Hilde. I thought about bugging Sam for one until I realized that if I crossed them into the "Mack" Snow co-dom line.... I wouldn't be able to tell a line bred hatchling from a co-dom hatchling.

[Reptile Kings]

Thanks for the comments everyone

Yes, they are the line bred ones, I think that as baby's you can't tell the difference btwn the line bred vs. co-dom, you can check this by looking at those baby pics i posted and then check Linda's site in the Co-Dom Snow section, where she has pics of her hatchlings, they're basically the same, however, you can definently tell the difference btwn the two, (or maybe it's just me) when they become juvies/adults. The co-doms have a more jungle pattern to them while the line bred ones definently don't have any pattern, the co-doms also have quite a bit of yellow colouration to them, I'm not saying that the line bred ones don't, because there are some out there that do, however in my opinion the amount of yellow on them was less than the co-dom line.

Here are some pics of the hatchlings' parents for comparison:
Father, Le Stat:


Picture of mother, Cookie:



Pictures of juvi Co-dom Snows (hope it's okay I took them from your site Linda )





See the difference?

-Sam

[Painted Desert]

Ahhh, indeed Sam. But, the pics you chose have a Superhypo Tang mommy... her hatchlings are destined to yellow...and have reduced pattern. Not all co-doms do


It's no secret that the big breeders are racing to an all white leo. The trick here will be to breed that reduced pattern (the SuperHypotang) into the Super Snow... the ultimate goal when working with Co-doms. Which is exactly why that first circle back you posted...is sold Here is how his pattern is "dropping out".. now at 20g for referrence.

He's yellow as a canary! But, invaluable for project work, having that reliable co-dom gene.
Imagine erasing the spots on this fellow!

[DragnDrop]

Actually, my original question was meant to be how to tell the hatchlings and juvies apart, not the older ones. It wasn't meant to be a discussion to take away from the fun of your snow hatchling announcement. I know the 'first generation' mack snows, being het for co-dom snow turn somewhat yellow, and the line bred snows come in various degrees of yellowing. The 2nd step in the macks which are super-snows stay pure white with black spots but do they hatch out black and white or start off different and then go white? What I wondered was is there a way to tell them all apart when young? So, if I wanted to be sure I was getting a Mack snow or super snow, I'd have to make sure they were past the hatching stage or I could be fooled, right?

[thunder]

i like them with spots. if they were all white, they would just look the some of the blizzards.

[thunder]

also, why not breed the recessive patternless trait to the mack snows? it would speed things up a bit.

[Painted Desert]

Lets put the MACK stuff in a separate thread. This is about Sam's Snow Line... and they are beautiful I was just saying I can't have one... cause i'm old now, and easily confused. Nice work Sam.