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Old 05-20-05, 12:42 PM   #1
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Talking SALMON same as a cruise missle....photo.

This girl is a charm to deal with when protecting her belly. Very docile before I bred her to an Albino but since the male is out and she has had to see with the crawlers in the belly, she has become a serious handful. At under 6 feet and 21 lbs she seeks me like a bloody cruise missle. She loves the heat and the radiant heat panel above her does keep her very happy there. Getting photos of her is even more of a task, but I got this one pretty good before she was to alert

If you see above her head at the very top is the balck temp probe that controlls the radiant heat pad. Also love to decoate the cages a bit, something different from a plain cell block.

June will be a nice month.



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Old 05-20-05, 01:26 PM   #2
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The photo didn't work for me....

Just wondering though
so from what you're saying boas change their temperament once they get gravid?
I am trying to learn here....I have never dealt with a large boa (well not breeding them) before. But I do want to get a pair of super salmons so I want to learn as much as I can before I do any purchasing.

I have gotten all the boa books that was recommanded to me for the ETBs. But I also want to learn about the Salmons too.....so any info would be greatly appreciated!
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Old 05-20-05, 01:49 PM   #3
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Sorry Simon, the photo host is doing some maintenace on there server got lucky to upload but not show, till later I guess.

So far 4 females I have had changed their attitudes during breeding, anything from normals to morphs. Some show it more before giving birth. I do not test them out to see how much their attitude changes as I try and leave them alone during this time. Only doing small check in on them and then covering the cages.

The attitude or alertness seems in my experience to highten during this critical time when I am expecting the babies. What I mean is most of my girls I can easily get out of their cages without any fuss. But once they bred and carry young they are not as willing to be moved or messed with, easily show there front at you without a problem. No strikers but then again I do not try and push the stand off with them for safety for the female and the young.

The real trick with protective mothers once the litter arrives is the task that a newbie at breeding will face and learn fast. They are most alert at this time of the year and if your not fully ready to handle a protective mother it can be a chore to save those babies. Not saying each birth and all snakes are the same, just my experience on my girls and my countermove to protect myself from angry moms, lol.

Once they give birth and I can get her out of the cage, then its the babies turn to safely remove and group together, count the, clean what I can and let them settle in as a group away from mom. After I sterile the cage like a huge spring cleaning to remove any scent left from birth. Wash mom after I gave her an hour or more break and return her back to her cage. So far all have done the same "looking for my babies" cruise in their cages for days to weeks after. But they settle down more in time and then feeding is set up and all goes again for another year. After about 2 weeks or so away from young they docile up again.

But again this is my experience, each case is different.

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Old 05-20-05, 02:40 PM   #4
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She looks great and so does that cage! Where did you get your heat pannel from and is that the only heating you use?
Im wanting to switch over to heat pannels
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Thanks Scoot.

I got my panels a few years ago when I read on them and became a believer the best heat is radiant heat, only second to nature itself. That being said only USA had what I was looking for.

And even at that time reptile online shops had nothing in this source of heat, so I went to the top name and originator of the first radiant panels.

http://www.pro-products.com/

Pro-products is a company, do alot of custom stuff and orders and the owner is a great person to talk with, give them a shout.

For all my custom cages, yes only radiant heat I use, easily get me temps set and cage has a 10 degree difference from right to left. Been using them for 4 plus years and grew yearlings to adults and bred them without a problem, this is the best heat source

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Old 05-20-05, 05:36 PM   #6
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Wow thanks!
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Old 05-20-05, 06:17 PM   #7
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Old 05-20-05, 07:44 PM   #8
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I can now see that photo~
Wow....
your setup is awesome!
It looks so nice and clean!!

Oh thanks again for the great information that you have provided.
I have only bred small boas, ball pythons, and colubrids....I really want to give it a try with teh boas. I really want a pair of super salmons (once again Stav, if you see this post, I hate you! Hate you for posting that Super Salmon Pic!!)

Do you have any recommandation on any boa books that I should get?
I got a lot of books on ETBs and have been reading them up. Also ETPs.....but are there any good books on big boas like those salmons and other under 10 feet boas?

Thanks agian for the great information and your experience with them!
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Old 05-20-05, 08:00 PM   #9
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Thanks Simon.

Actually there are alot of books, but which are up to date is a different thing.



All these arew great the video is one of the best.
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So far I have 5 of those books,
The Complete Chondro
Tree Boas Tree Pythons
Boas Whats Wrong with My Snake
Boa Constrictors.

You said that the video is great, where would I be able to find it?
I think that I might get the Red-tailed boa, and the Living Bos. Those books loosk good too!

Thanks again for your help!
I remember you posting this picture when I was at the ETB forum asking for books too!!

Thanks so much for your information!
Greatly appreciate it!!
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Old 05-20-05, 08:25 PM   #11
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Simon, the video is a Rich Ihle and Tracy Barker partnership on information and secrets in boa breeding. Great video and can be oredered in VHS and DVD now.

http://www.vpi.com/KeeperShop/BoaVid...a_video_ad.htm

Hope to get the DVD very soon.
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thats a really nice cage, did you make it yourself? can you post some more pics of it
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Thanks Eddie.

This is a better view of the full size at a distance.

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wat r the dimentons for each cage
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Each section is 5 feet x 2.5 x 2.5 and there is a short shefl in each with scrap wood and held with a 1.5 inch dowel post. The whole usit is 3/4 wood...super stronge but heavy as oh my, lol.
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