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04-01-05, 02:33 PM
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Difference?
Could somone please tell me the difference between BCI and BCC boa's?
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04-01-05, 03:01 PM
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this site has alot of good info on all the sub species of bcc's and bci's
http://www.boa-constrictors.com/com/com.html
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04-01-05, 03:07 PM
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BCC, Boa Constrictor Constrictor ; BCI, Boa Constrictor Imperator.
The first is your common red tail, the second is known as the Emperor or "Mexican" boa as it is native to northern Mexico, although it can be found along the west coast of South America
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04-01-05, 04:30 PM
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I don't know where you're getting your information, Snake Pliscan, but you're dead wrong.
Boa Constrictor Imperator includes MANY localities of boa including Colombians, Hog Islands, Mexicans, and many more.
Boa Constrictor Constrictor are the "True Redtails", and include localities such as Guyana, Suriname, Peruvian, and Brazillian. What's the difference? Well, some argue none at all. Some argue that they should ALL be separated into subspecies. You know a true redtail when you see one though - their tails are usually just electric.
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04-02-05, 03:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Invictus
I don't know where you're getting your information, Snake Pliscan, but you're dead wrong.
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I couldn't agree more.
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1.4 Surinam(e) Bcc, 7.17 Ball Pythons, 2.6 Solomon Island Ground Boas, 2.2 Cornsnakes, 1.1 Colombian Bci, 1.2 Veiled Chameleons, 0.1 Uroplatus Sikorae, & lots of other creatures!!!
"Nevermind tomorrow, I'm not promised today"-innocent bystander :medtoothy
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04-03-05, 01:45 AM
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Hey, lighten up alittle. Sorry Invictus, I didn't mean to call BCC "common". I have two. And while it is true that boas are no respectors of boundries, I was relating the general locality listed for boa constrictor imperator in "Red-tailed Boa" by Glen Drewnowski. Wrong, maybe, but not dead wrong.
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04-03-05, 12:35 PM
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There is no "General locality" listed for BCI, since they are all over South and Central America. So your information was wrong. Sorry if you can't handle having mistakes pointed out.
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04-03-05, 01:37 PM
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Thanks a lot knight45, that site you pointed out was a real help! 
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04-03-05, 05:40 PM
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Invictus:
This is a VERY big world we live in, so general locality is a relative concept. You seam to be more hung up on the exact wording than the principal idea. If you will PM me with the tilte of any informative books that you may have written on the subject, I will be more than happy to read it. I gave you the title of my source. According to a leading herp website, the term "red-tail" is applied to Columbians, (bci ?). This same site states that boa constrictor constrictor is the Columbian Red-tail.
I don't mind being corrected, but at least list your resources.
As this forum is designed to help each other out, can we dispense with contrite comments.
Thanks to knight45, the site was helpful for me also. Another one to check is www.boa-subspecies.com
bigdave: Good luck with whichever one you choose, they are very rewarding.
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04-03-05, 08:18 PM
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I think that the mainland Boa's are (really) a large group of BC ssp.
Just the locality and the variety of food is what makes the difference
The Island groups are another story........
Mainland Boa's will always crossbreed with one another.............(BCI with BCC and vice versa)
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04-03-05, 08:40 PM
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no problem
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0.1.1BP, 0.0.1 bullsnake 0.1 BCI
no soup for me, eh. What if i hit you in the head with a bat?
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04-03-05, 08:58 PM
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this may sound like a pretty stupid question, but could you breed a BCC and a BCI?
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04-03-05, 10:27 PM
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No question is stupid if we learn something from the answer. I have known of carpet paythons and tree pythons mating, so I wouldn't think it would be any different for our friends bcc and bci since they are subspecies of the same species of the same family. But then, what do I know, the half dozen books I've read on boas don't mention it.
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04-04-05, 02:40 AM
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Montie,
They'll breed, but it is highly frowned upon in the herp world.
Snake Pliscan,
I haven't written any books either so I'm no pro, but I hate to be the one that breaks it to ya, Invictus is right, you are wrong.
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1.4 Surinam(e) Bcc, 7.17 Ball Pythons, 2.6 Solomon Island Ground Boas, 2.2 Cornsnakes, 1.1 Colombian Bci, 1.2 Veiled Chameleons, 0.1 Uroplatus Sikorae, & lots of other creatures!!!
"Nevermind tomorrow, I'm not promised today"-innocent bystander :medtoothy
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04-04-05, 07:17 AM
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Oh, apparently we need to write a book in order to be correct about something. Interesting.
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