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03-19-05, 05:17 PM
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Join Date: Sep-2004
Location: Toronto
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Any way to tell 100% Het Pied ?
I was looking into buying a pair of Het Pieds, They are supposed to be 100% but I wanted to know if there was anyway for me to tell or are they like Het Albino where they just look like normals?
Thanks Guys and Girls
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03-19-05, 06:25 PM
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Join Date: Jun-2004
Location: London
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Nope they just look like "normals". You just gotta trust the person you are getting them from.
Hump.
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1.4 Surinam(e) Bcc, 7.17 Ball Pythons, 2.6 Solomon Island Ground Boas, 2.2 Cornsnakes, 1.1 Colombian Bci, 1.2 Veiled Chameleons, 0.1 Uroplatus Sikorae, & lots of other creatures!!!
"Nevermind tomorrow, I'm not promised today"-innocent bystander :medtoothy
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03-26-05, 04:01 PM
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Join Date: Jan-2005
Location: South Western Ontario
Age: 53
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Apparently there are Markers, but I have not clue, I am hoping some more knowledgable person could post a couple pics pointing out these markers. Even then I suspect nothing is certain.
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03-26-05, 07:58 PM
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Super Genius
Join Date: Nov-2002
Location: Southwestern Ontario
Age: 49
Posts: 6,292
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All hets look like normals, unless you buy into the "marker" thing. Make sure that the breeder you buy from is legit, that's how you can tell they're hets.
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03-27-05, 11:12 AM
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Join Date: Apr-2003
Location: Montreal
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The marker trait on Het-Pieds is big marketing BS, get them from a reputable breeder and sleep better at night, markers or not...
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03-27-05, 06:14 PM
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Join Date: Jun-2004
Location: London
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If there was markers, would that make them homozygous, not heterozygous?
It only makes sense.
I had a male ball that had one of these "markers", I knew it was het for piebald! Damn I shouldn't have sold it! J/K
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1.4 Surinam(e) Bcc, 7.17 Ball Pythons, 2.6 Solomon Island Ground Boas, 2.2 Cornsnakes, 1.1 Colombian Bci, 1.2 Veiled Chameleons, 0.1 Uroplatus Sikorae, & lots of other creatures!!!
"Nevermind tomorrow, I'm not promised today"-innocent bystander :medtoothy
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03-27-05, 07:20 PM
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Super Genius
Join Date: Nov-2002
Location: Southwestern Ontario
Age: 49
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Humphrey, that isn't a het pied marker, it's a ringer. The (supposed)belly pattern is the marker for a het pied.
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03-27-05, 07:24 PM
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Join Date: Jun-2004
Location: London
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I know, I was just joking!
It was a very low white piebald! LOL!
Hump.
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"Nevermind tomorrow, I'm not promised today"-innocent bystander :medtoothy
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03-27-05, 07:24 PM
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Join Date: Oct-2004
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The only "real" marker that I know of is the solid black line that runs along either side of the belly. As far as I know, this has yet to be proven to be a true sign of het for pied.
My snake is 50% poss het pied (I think... one parent was pied), but does not have those markers. His sister however, had white "patches" similar to the ones in your pic (Hump), but much larger and VERY white. She also had the supposed belly markers.
Ringer, Mykee? Sorry, I'm unfamiliar with that term.
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03-27-05, 07:27 PM
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Join Date: Jun-2004
Location: London
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Spirit if one of the parents is a piebald, that would make it 100% het. Not 50%.
edit-Mykee is right, it's a ringer. Although I've been told it was a "bullseye" ball too. Some people say it's the same thing, some people say there's a difference. Ralph Davis told me there is a difference, however, I don't know what it is. Maybe someone could post pics of the difference?
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1.4 Surinam(e) Bcc, 7.17 Ball Pythons, 2.6 Solomon Island Ground Boas, 2.2 Cornsnakes, 1.1 Colombian Bci, 1.2 Veiled Chameleons, 0.1 Uroplatus Sikorae, & lots of other creatures!!!
"Nevermind tomorrow, I'm not promised today"-innocent bystander :medtoothy
Last edited by HumphreyBoagart; 03-27-05 at 07:31 PM..
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03-27-05, 07:35 PM
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Maybe the parent was het pied? I never was good at this genetic thing.
At any rate, my ball, as far as I can tell, does not carry the marker (but his sister definitely does). That was the only point I was trying to make.
Okay so what's a ringer? (and a bullseye?)
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03-27-05, 07:38 PM
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Join Date: Jan-2003
Location: Markham, ON
Age: 44
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I've read that only certain lines of pied have the markers not all lines. Don't know for sure if that's true but thought I would add it, I can't wait to get my het pied male, I hope I can afford him this summer.
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03-27-05, 07:44 PM
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Spirit: See picture above
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1.4 Surinam(e) Bcc, 7.17 Ball Pythons, 2.6 Solomon Island Ground Boas, 2.2 Cornsnakes, 1.1 Colombian Bci, 1.2 Veiled Chameleons, 0.1 Uroplatus Sikorae, & lots of other creatures!!!
"Nevermind tomorrow, I'm not promised today"-innocent bystander :medtoothy
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03-27-05, 07:50 PM
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Join Date: Oct-2004
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Quote:
Originally posted by HumphreyBoagart
Spirit: See picture above
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HAHAHA! Smartass. 
I may not know what it is, but I know what it looks like! 
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03-27-05, 07:57 PM
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Join Date: Jun-2004
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Wasn't trying to be a smartass. You asked, and I told.
Hump.
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1.4 Surinam(e) Bcc, 7.17 Ball Pythons, 2.6 Solomon Island Ground Boas, 2.2 Cornsnakes, 1.1 Colombian Bci, 1.2 Veiled Chameleons, 0.1 Uroplatus Sikorae, & lots of other creatures!!!
"Nevermind tomorrow, I'm not promised today"-innocent bystander :medtoothy
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