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03-04-05, 10:42 PM
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GTP or ETB?
which snake make is a better captive animal a Green Tree Python or an Emerald Tree Boa? i love the red colored GTP but the ETB has amazing green. which one has a better temper? and which one is a better feeder?
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03-05-05, 09:40 AM
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The Green Tree Python will also turn green only the neonates are red. Both are stunning animals, You can get ATB that stay completely red or yellow, But not GTP they will all lose that color eventually.
Devon
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03-05-05, 10:26 PM
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oh i didnt know that. thanks for the info. would you know which one eats better?
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03-06-05, 10:23 AM
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If you didn't know green tree pythons turn green, then you need to do more research....a lot more research before you buy one. Both species are amazing animals to keep and both require similar care with the emerald tree boa needing higher humidity levels nearly all the time to keep their lungs healthy. They have massive teeth, so if you get bit it's going to hurt. Different animals have different dispositions, so it is really hard to predict which animals will have a better temper....this also applies to green tree pythons, although Biaks tend to be more aggressive. Green tree pythons can tolerate lower humidity levels than emeralds, with higher levels required during day time hours and a drying out period over night and then increasing the levels again during the day....during shed cycles keep the humidity up around the clock to ensure a good shed as they have really thin skin and if it's too dry they don't shed well and this can lead to health problems, especially with younger animals. If you want an animal that feeds well, buy a captive bred one from someone who knows them well and can help you out if you have any after purchase questions. Emeralds don't need to be fed as often as green tree pythons and overfeeding either species can kill them, especially when they are young....don't feed them like a ball python or a colubrid....every ten days or so for a green tree python and no more than every couple of weeks for an emerald tree boa as they metabolize slower than pythons. Keep emeralds between 80 to 85 degrees and green tree pythons between 85 to 90 degrees with slightly lower temperatures at night for both. This is a really basic reply to a very broad question regarding animals that need a lot more reseach to learn how to properly care for them before you go out and get one. There's a great book called "The Complete Chondro" by Greg Maxwell if it is a green tree python you decide on that will tell you everything you need to know before buying one.
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03-06-05, 10:33 AM
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i know that i need to do research, this is why i am asking questions. i am not planning on getting either of one any time soon, i was just interested in them both as animals to consider getting. right now i have my hands full with breeding my cresties and leos. definatly thanks for the information. do you own either of these?
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03-07-05, 11:51 AM
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I suggest you start of with a nice Amazon Tree boa, they are amazing snakes and have smaller teeth than GTPs and ETBs and are easier to keep ( lower humidity requirements ). They are also ALOT cheaper. As for me, i prefer ETBs but i dont suggest them to anybody without a few years of experience with snakes.
phil.
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03-07-05, 02:54 PM
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good to hear. ill take that into consideration
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03-07-05, 04:52 PM
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I don't know if a few years experience is required, but experience with more demanding species is definitely a must. Going from ccresties and leos to arboreal boids is like going from a yellow belt in karate to a black belt. You may get the knowledge eventually, but you'll get your a$$ kicked hard in the mean time.
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03-07-05, 05:22 PM
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I personally have been keeping snakes since 1999 & have kept literally 1000's since (mostly babies produced) I would reccomend neither as a starter snake. I personally have kept neither as both GTP & ETB are advanced species which require advanced husbandry & I just don't have the time required to commit to either species. Even a Amazon Tree Boa as suggested is not a beginner snake. I would suggest an Amazon over both the other 2 for at least a year before thinking about them & preferably a starter snake for a while first such as a Corn or King species or maybe a Carpet before considering an Amazon even. Mark
P.S. another great starter would be a Childrens or Spotted Python  much better than a Corn/King & much easier than a Carpet (lots less space required)
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03-07-05, 08:43 PM
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Funny how Mark mentions Childrens pythons right after his CP laid eggs.... good marketing dude!
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03-07-05, 09:17 PM
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Klik
I wasn't trying to come across as arrogant or judgmental towards you in any way in my earlier response, so I hope you didn't take it that way....I just have a propensity to be a little blunt sometimes. I keep both species, so if you want to ask me any questions, please feel free....I'll do my best to answer them.
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03-09-05, 03:02 PM
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Location: Bronx, NY
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no man its ok. i know that they both recquire a lot of work and there is no way id be getting anyone soon. i am redoing my basement this summer and am creating a reptile room for just my herps and i thought one of them would make a gorgeous addition.
do you have any pics of the enclosures that you could post?
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