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03-02-05, 07:21 AM
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Pittbull ban passed, quesiton for existing owners
I know this has been beaten to death, but now that the bill passed in the legislature and will take effect in late summer / early fall, how many existing owners plan to follow the new rules of having them muzzled and neutered/spayed?"
"Existing pit bulls will have to be neutered or spayed and will have to be leashed and muzzled in public 60 days after the legislation is proclaimed."
http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/Toront...47201-sun.html
Hope this does not turn into a flame war.. just curious is all
Last edited by Shad0w; 03-02-05 at 08:02 AM..
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03-02-05, 11:17 AM
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Super Genius
Join Date: Nov-2002
Location: Southwestern Ontario
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If they want to keep their dogs, I'm guessing every one of them?
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03-02-05, 11:24 AM
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Location: Ontario
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I think most Pit Bull owners have already started to follow those guidlines, much before the bill was passed. I know I started to at the end of last summer.
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03-02-05, 11:30 AM
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Location: Toronto, Ontario
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I got my guy fixed in November and it sucked because he was 5 1/2 at the time. Like Matt I also started walking him on a muzzle around september of last year, more to get him used to it then anything. I live in a building and have the whole time I had him, after this BS started, some people who have always been fine with my dogs started acting like they were scared and wouldn't get on the elevator or go near me with the dogs anymore.
Nick
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03-02-05, 11:32 AM
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I hope that the majority of owners do NOT neuter or spay their dogs. I wouldn't if I had one. Most will probably muzzle them to keep their local idiot loud mouths from complaining.
Adam
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03-02-05, 11:39 AM
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Join Date: Sep-2003
Location: montreal CANADA and proud of it!
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My moms had a pitbull since it was 2 months old, she didnt even know it was a pitbull so she named it wishbone, lol..
it has been fixed a few years ago, and it always has a mussle around its mouth when going for walks, because it is friendly with people, but it will rip apart any other animal(its happened)
but honestly i find it is the owners sometimes that make the pitbulls agressive, there is a black guy a few doors away from me that trains his pitbull to be agressive, by whiping it, and wraping a chain around its neck and swinging it around, him and his friends fight there dogs in the park at night, and one night my mom was walking her pitbull, and one of the guys came over and said wanna fight it? the prize is 400$, and my mom freaked and said no, and the idiot let his dog go and as soon as he did my moms dog broke the leash and tore the other guys dog apart,
my mom ran crying after with the dog, and the next day the guy saw her on the street and gave her the 400$, lol..
i hate it when i see the guys treating there dogs that way, i love dogs, lol..
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03-02-05, 11:44 AM
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Join Date: Jan-2004
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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I know it prob. has been said before but ill do it anyway.
I think that it is a shame to ban any breed. ANY dog can be mean or be made mean, and I think this has been proven with the fact that now Golden Retrievers are now at (or near) the top of the "attacks on humans" list. Working at a vet clinic I see many different types of dogs every day and have had Pit bull terriers come in that are the friendliest dogs in the world.
I think what people have to realize that with proper training and socialization we can prevent many of the problems we currently have with dogs.
I would hope that people follow the new laws and get their dogs spayed and neutered. I hope that this would not only apply to pit bulls, but to all dogs that we consider pets.
Wearing the muzzle in public, I disagree with because I feel it promotes more fear in the public. As it is people cross the street when they see a large intimidating dog, never mind when it is wearing a muzzle.
But I guess the law is the law. I just hope the hysteria doesn’t consume us all.
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03-02-05, 11:48 AM
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Super Genius
Join Date: Nov-2002
Location: Southwestern Ontario
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I would think that most responsible pit bull owners would also have taken these precautions a while ago, simply to avoid any of the residual backlash. It's good to see that (most) pit bull owners are complying, it's a small price to pay in the long run to be able to keep your pet.
Emkovar; with regards to your post, we've all been there, done that topic ad nauseum. I don't think anyone wants to rehash it AGAIN. (At least I hope not).
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03-02-05, 11:51 AM
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Location: Ottawa
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I think the ban is completly rettarted, or to be politically correct, its a mentally challenged bill that was passed. I have a breed of dog that is known to be aggressive with other dogs (an Akita) and he's the sweetest and calmest dog I have ever met. We took the time to take him to puppy kindergarten and to socialize him, we only train him with possitive reinforcement and he is good with other non-aggressive dogs and loves people.
I think the onus should be on owners to ensure that their dogs are brougth up right, and people should be penalized for being irresponsible.
I would be really upset if they started banning all dogs that have the potential to be dangerous. They might as well ban ice, so morons that aren't paying attention to what they are doing don't slip and sue for bumping their heads.
I think if the dog is a proven bitter, something should be done about it. And it the owner is proven irresponsible, he should be penalized. Just like someone that commits a crime is usually given a 10 year weapons ban and forced to keep the peace as one of his conditions of release, irresponsible dog onwers should not be allowed to own dangerous breeds.
That's my 2 cents.
Last edited by sturiches2000; 03-02-05 at 11:57 AM..
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03-02-05, 11:53 AM
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Join Date: Mar-2002
Location: toronto
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and the question about pitbulls again is what?
after that last post banning pitbulls is a bad thing again why???? cuz we can't ban people.
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03-02-05, 11:53 AM
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Join Date: Nov-2003
Location: Toronto
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Quote:
Originally posted by atw
I hope that the majority of owners do NOT neuter or spay their dogs. I wouldn't if I had one. Most will probably muzzle them to keep their local idiot loud mouths from complaining.
Adam
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All dogs should be spayed or neutered regardless of breed to help stop the overpopulation problem with dogs. I do like the fact that they are forcing people to spay and neuter their dogs, but that law should be across the board not just for pit bulls.
I personally don't think the ban is necessary, I really don't think it is going to stop much in the way of attacks. If not pit bulls it will be something else.
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03-02-05, 12:02 PM
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Super Genius
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Location: Southwestern Ontario
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Crap!! Here we go again......
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03-02-05, 12:07 PM
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Oh man... lets not let this thread get ugly
This thread is not about if the law should or should not be... its here... just wanna know who is gunna follow the new rules is all
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03-02-05, 12:18 PM
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I agree with vengeance. Far too many unwanted dogs in the shelters. Spaying/ Neutering is very responsible thing to do.
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03-02-05, 12:18 PM
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LOL, gotta love it when people on such opposite sides of the spectrum are in the same forum
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