Japanese Leopard Geckos

little_dragon_ · 03-01-05, 06:27 PM

My brother teaches English in Japan. After the holidays he brought back some pictures of my cresteds for his students to see. They thought they were really neat looking. One of his students parents breeds geckos and she wants to send me some Japanese Leopard geckos. I haven't been able to find any good sites with info on them.

Anyone have a good site?

peterm15 · 03-01-05, 06:41 PM

thats prob cause there are none.. personally i havent heard of them... it would be neat though.. maybe you can ask for some care tips from the breeder

clint545 · 03-01-05, 06:43 PM

just did a google search and didn't come up with much. I do recall seeing a bit of info on them on a few obscure sites, but that was quite a while ago..

sorry that wasn't much help.

little_dragon_ · 03-01-05, 06:55 PM

I found an all japanese site, lol
here's the scientific names
Goniurosaurus Kuroiwae Kuroiwae, orientalis,splendens,toyamai,yamashinae

clint545 · 03-01-05, 07:04 PM

Whoa! I found one pic cool looking little guys!! Have you looked into what kind of paperwork you might need to get them over here?

Double J · 03-01-05, 07:06 PM

If you are looking for images of strange gecko species... forget Google.... check out www.gekkota.com They have a rather extensive database of gecko photos.

Here is a link to some Goniurosaurus photos:

http://www.gekkota.com/html/goniurosaurus.html

Here is a link to the gecko photos page. Click on the sub-family, choose the letter of the genus, then the genus, and it then will give you a list of the species of that genus as well as photos.
Gekkoninae subfamily contains the most genera..... then of course things like leopards and Goniurosaurus are in the Eublepharinae sub-family.

For those who don't know.. I highly recommend joing the Global Gecko Association. Contact Neil Meister if you would like to join. You get newsletters and the GGA journal which contains some great articles and color photos of species you wouldn't normally come across.

SnowSnake · 03-01-05, 07:31 PM

Aren't they japanese cave geckos?

03-01-05, 07:44 PM

I kept and bred them for 3 years before selling off my adult pair. My wife brought them here from Japan for me. Anything in particular you would like to know, other than the fact that they are federally protected in Japan?

peterm15 · 03-01-05, 07:49 PM

but even if they are protected if ppl are breeding them doesnt that mean there still available in the industry

03-01-05, 07:51 PM

I do occasionally see them for sale in the US and Germany, so the answer is yes.

little_dragon_ · 03-01-05, 08:22 PM

I'm not sure if I want them to send me some. I am well aware that they are federally protected in Japan. I haven't researched the paperwork yet. My brother sent me an email a couple hours ago mentioning his students will be emailing about japanese leopard geckos they want to send me. There are C.B breeders in Japan. I was looking for general care resources, behaviour, some background info just to see if I'm really interested in working with this species. Thanks for the sites!

Double J · 03-01-05, 08:38 PM

Don't forget the costs involved in *legal* importation. You have to have an import/export license... do all kinds of legwork.... and if they are CITES, then that adds loads more hassle.... not to mention the shipping costs involved as well as your time. It would be cheaper for you to find them in Canada. I believe I have seen them at PCPC and Global Exotic pets. I am sure there are a few geckophiles in Canada somewhere breeding them. You will just have to do a little digging. I'll keep an eye out for ya, though it wouldn't surprise me if someone on here is working with them.

TLH_Wär§cöötmän · 03-01-05, 10:02 PM

I have a caresheet for Chinese Cave Geckos, which are basically the same as the Japanese Cave geckos. (I am currently trying to get some Japanese, but am on a year waiting list :O ) I did some research and that is the info I found on them.

http://www.freewebs.com/albertabredg...s.htm#36505099

Hope it helps.

03-01-05, 10:34 PM

I'm not sure about Port Credit, but the geckos that Rob had at Global were not Japanese, but Chinese Cave Dwelling Geckos (luii). I'm not so ignorant as to think that I am the only person who's ever had them in Canada. However while they were in my care I spent countless hours researching them. I also had my Japanese wife exhaust her contacts in Japan, for information on natural history and any breeders. I came up with a breeder in New York, one in Germany, and a couple in Japan (primarily Shin Sugiyama). They are now being bred by a couple of people in the US with limited success. They are a very fragile species in captivity, and the last I checked the hatchlings are almost impossible to raise. Obvdiously (sp?), some people are starting to figure out how to consistantly breed and raise them. But if you look at how incredibly beautiful (G.k.splendens) they are, and how many are available, it seems only too obvdious how difficult they are to work with. Note however, mine were wild caught.

Just my 2 cents,

Jason

little_dragon_ · 03-01-05, 11:20 PM

Your 2 cents is infinite wisdom towards these little geckos in my books

Thank you for your input. It's so hard with the time different to communicate with my brother. It's his lunch break now and he reads all my long emails on his mobile phones, and responds one letter at a time. lol poor guy. I'm trying to figure out if they are actually japanese leopard geckos or the common "nihonyamori" the common wall gecko. I hope I have that right.