Boa Babies Born Jan 20, 2005!!!!!

[AnniesMom]

Any support/suggestions/advice that I can get about these babies would be greatly appreciated!!

[Shad0w]

CONGRATS!!!

[BoidKeeper]

Take the mother out and wash her down but her into a new cage.
Leave the babies alone for a day or two but you may want to mist them with warm water. When they start moving around take them out and set them up in their own individual tubs.
Offer them a pinkie rat for their first meal, not a fuzzy mouse.
Congrats,
Trevor

[~Suntiger~]

Congratulations!!
Do you have pictures for us????

[Bartman]

Congrats! Thats sweet

[AnniesMom]

There were 18 slugs and 14 neonates. The babies are mostly lying still, although I can see a pulse and breathing in some of them. I've been misting them a little with warm water. Are they normally active right after birth? The mother is out of the cage already. I'm wondering if they are slowly coming around or if they are slowly dying. HELP!!! I didn't even know that Honey was preggers. She kept eating and when Jake was with her a while ago, I didn't see any successful mating.

[BOAS_N_PYTHONS]

ANNIESMOM:

Congrats.

First get a sweaterbox rubbermaid ready with its own heat sources like a human heat pad. Have a misting bottle ready with room temp water for regular misting. Remove mom first clean her up and secure her away from the cage and the babies like another large rubbermaid. Take each baby and place in new clean misted rubbermaid tub lined in papertowel. Becareful with each baby. Once all of them are in this tub, place on heat source and check on them regular and mist. As for main cage clean out everything, wash it down in warm water and dish soap. Clean everything inside and wipe all down after. Set up the cage again as it was for mom and place her back inside of cage. Cover the cage front so she can have some peace - some boas get very aggressive in this process and do go through a stage of wondering where the babies are. Back to the babies - check in on them regular and provide a clean tub, paper towel set up again every 12 hours or so depending on messy after birth and order from high humidity set ups. Doing them regular over the next 6 days will ensure a somewhat sterile environment for the babies. At this stage 2 things happen you can either leave them together or have show box rubbermiads for each babby, I prefer this set up as now they can be observed as individuals. Once the shed process is over for each boa - introduction of food is your next step and before you get there it will be anywhere from 2 weeks to a month or so.

CAUTION....removal of the babies from mom' s cage and during clean up of the full group is to be taken around there yoke sacks, let them digest as much of it as possible in the next 3 days, Most at this stage drop off and then they are much easier to handle and prepare in each cage.

Good luck

Tony

[AnniesMom]

Thanks Tony, I'm concerned though because most of them aren't moving. Occasionally, I see one move, or a pulse or a breath, but none of them are moving around in the cage. Is this normal???
I will start the set up that you described now. How do you know that the mother is finished for sure. She still has a lump in the lower part of her body. Should this concern me?? She is not contracting anymore.

[boa]

I take it this cluch was not planned?By that picture they all look still born (dead).Are all the boas in the picture that were born or did you remove the live ones?

[boa]

Give me an email here with more pictures and close ups we will chat then about your concerns.
boadude2003@yahoo.com

[chappy]

Looks to me like your female gave birth prematurely, I've had the same problem. If I can find it I will forward you some info I got some a friend. It helped me a lot so hopefully it will help you.

Good Luck,

Nick

EDIT: Ok I sent off an email and I left my number so feel free to call if you want.

[BOAS_N_PYTHONS]

ANNIESMOM:

Start the set up I described. The concern some are not moving - best way to check is to mist if the flinch or start moving more then they are active enjough for removal and ready for the set I described. If you can reach them without the mom being aggressive or endangering the young with her weight then try and get all of the out including still borns, slugs and so on. Take count of everything your doing this is valuable information for records. If the yound do not react to the misting or little touching them then it is a possibility then are so weak them may not survive the ordeal. I can not say for certain I can only generalize because I can not see them in person. If you can do 2 set ups ones that look alert and healthy and another with the non- alert weaker ones then you will get a better idea of what they may need with the coming hours and days. Naturally in nature they will need to feel secure and even none motion is a form of security if the notice mom close by or the surrounding area seems secure.

I notice in the photo they are all scattered, was this done by you or them or the way mom gave birth to them?

Misting is very important as fragile as the are the heat is drying them up rather fast and they needed misting to help keep them moist and vibrant.

I can try and help more please place more photos. Photos that will help me better understand the situation are views from all over the cage showing size and heat source. Full view of the cage and some photos of mom. She may have a large lump in her and that can still be young or her long await defication after this birth. Unless she already went to today on yesturday this may be the lump that is coming. Is her attitude different, and is she aggressive and more than normal alert at you. Is she gentle in the cage towards the young, has she smothering the young or end hurt any with her size. All these questions need tro be answered to continue with the help. The more photos you present the better idea I can get. Time is important as well when did she start giving birth how much time has passed till your post and our replies.

I use MSN messenger if you want more direct and faster help I can try through this service if you use it as well.

Contact me via MSN messenger at : nemesisboaspythons@hotmail.com

Hear from you soon or I will check into this post as regular as I can

Tony Pharosx

[AnniesMom]

I went into the kitchen where the cages are at 430pm, 5 hours ago, and she was in labour. She delivered until 530pm. Her behaviour was normal, although perky, and very active. Not aggressive. I removed the mother after she finished birthing, and had to move the babies so that I could get rid of the mess. She had them all at one end of the cage, and was lying and rolling on them, thus I moved them. She pooped within the last week.

[BOAS_N_PYTHONS]

ANNIESMOM:

Originally posted by AnniesMom
and was lying and rolling on them

This may be the reason some look dead, unless they move with mistying or you picking them up they either with birthed dead or she mave have killed them.

Get them all out and check on each one gently.

Being you were not certain she was gravid and so early in season to give birth although it happens if it was planned then this may be a premature birth and some may not survive but you need to try and make sure they do.

Tony Pharosx

[chappy]

The yolk sacks the babies need to absorb are in their stomachs, the ones attached to the umbilical cord need to be removed or they will get this green mucus on them which is bad. Once you get the sacks removed, put them on dry papertowel and leave them alone. The umbilical cord will dry up and fall off on its own within a couple of days and their yolk sack inside will give them everything else they need. I wouldn't bother spraying them. I would handle them as little as possible. In my case the babies didn't move very much so i wouldnt worry too much, if they're alive you will know when you move them.

I'm not saying my way is the right way or the only way, but this is what has worked for me.

Nick