live feeding

legolas · 12-30-04, 08:51 AM

is live feeding legal in Canada and the USA? it isnt in England.

BWSmith · 12-30-04, 09:11 AM

It is legal, but of course discouraged by responsible keepers.

legolas · 12-30-04, 06:18 PM

im pleased to hear that responsible owners discourage live feeding. its a good thing that over here it is illegal. thank you for letting me know.

CamHanna · 12-30-04, 06:37 PM

How do you start more difficult species? Is it illegal to feed any animal live or just rodents? Is the law enforced?

As BWSmith said live-feeding is widely discouraged over here but occasionally a snake will not take prekilled prey and in these cases feeding live is often considered acceptable. I have a Longnose snake that is currently on live pinkies.

C.ADAMANTEUS · 12-30-04, 06:47 PM

I have a Kahl Albino BCC that actually is hard to feed UNLESS its live, and she can HUNT it. She'll be 6 next year and I got her at 6 mo. and have only gotten her to take f/t rats 5 or 6 times ever, and it took some doing. But I love her, and supervise every feeding.

JimmyDavid · 12-30-04, 07:32 PM

It's illegal based on what?

chas*e · 12-30-04, 08:08 PM

I feed f/t for easy and safe feeding but there are some snakes that I can't so I feed live and watch closely

spidergecko · 12-30-04, 10:08 PM

From what I understand, live feeding is illegal in the UK except for animals that will die without. So you could technically live feed to start off a poor feeder but once it moves to FT/prekilled you need to switch over completely. My guess is the law is probably enforced about as frequently as our Toronto by-law about keeping cats on leads or street parking longer than 3 hours. I doubt officers are out there looking for law breakers unless someone complains.

JimmyDavid · 12-30-04, 10:29 PM

If someone complains that's because it already took place. If it's done how is the person gonna be caught in the act? If you can't catch someone in the act how are you gonna prove something like that?
Get's pointless any way you think of it.

peterm15 · 12-30-04, 10:52 PM

its like one of thoes stupid laws...

like in calgary if you go to jail the law states that you MUST be given a horse and a loaded revolver to ride out of town with....lol...

its probably just someone complained once so they made a law... either that or it is aimed more toward petstores than anything...

legolas · 12-31-04, 10:56 AM

the last by-law sounds hilarious. lol.
petstores arent allowed to sell you rodents and the like, if it suspected that it will be used as food.
my boa was found dumped on a building site around 6 years ago. she had been left for dead.
with lots of TLC she is now 9 feet long, abit overweight and beautiful.
i have been very lucky and never had to live feed her.
my daughters 3 month old corn also takes dead very well.
maybe we are just lucky.
now have the urge to research Englands by-laws. lol.

legolas · 12-31-04, 11:07 AM

to answer another question, crickets, locusts, mealworm etc have to, obviously, be given as live prey.
otherwise all live feeding is illegal.
it is classed as inhumane and cruel.
im not too sure if the law would be enforced. something i must look into.

tonyj · 12-31-04, 11:30 AM

Geez! No wonder we're running low on horses and 45's, as all them there Easterners are leaving town and headin' back home.

The Trans-Canada must be knee deep in road apples and empty shells, as it heads out towards the Saskaberian border and beyond. Now we know why.

Good for the roses though!

JimmyDavid · 12-31-04, 01:22 PM

I noticed that you said it's illegal because it's cruel. That means they are not concerned that a rodent might bite a snake. So they discriminate wich animal is more important... It's Stupid.
The snake has no right to kill for food, the rodent has the right to be protected from becoming food.
I have a question : what if you use a snake to feed ANOTHER snake? does the rule aplly? Because in that case they would be protecting the same animal that they didn't give a **** about before.

Youkai · 12-31-04, 01:41 PM

It's illegal because it is inhumane. We aren't talking about the wild, we're talking about an animal thrown in a glass (or plastic) box that is being hunted down. The stress and pain to the prey animal caused by this is classified as inhumane.
Other than insects, all live feeding is illegal. That would include feeding a live snake to another snake.

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I noticed that you said it's illegal because it's cruel. That means they are not concerned that a rodent might bite a snake. So they discriminate wich animal is more important... It's Stupid.

Tell me...when else in captivity, other than being thrown into a snake's enclosure as food, would a rodent bite a snake? I'm not sure what wall you're bouncing off of right now.