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Old 12-26-04, 12:59 AM   #1
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Panther Chameleon, Local Mafana

Wow these Mafana look awesome!!! I would love to get my hands on those. Just wondering if anyone else has heard of them. Also I find that united states produce the most amazing panthers out there

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Old 12-27-04, 08:51 PM   #2
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Though i'd give a website to show you how it looks like http://www.chameleonparadise.com/mafanabreeders.htm
I hope i'm aloud to post a website just to show a picture, if not i can take it off

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Ya Canada is pretty lacking when it comes to all chameleons. It is hard to get used to.

In my opinion you'll never see the nice stuff up here in good numbers. People are just not willing to spend the money. I've been wanting to bring in Chams from Madagascar and Tanzania for awhile but am not doing just for the fact I know they will not sell.

The reptile industry in Canada is a disaster. You'll never see a good variety when crickets cost $30 a thousand and shipping can only can only be done via the airlines.

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Didn't take you long to figure it out, did it?
The trouble is our weather works against us, as does our (relatively) low population density compared to the US. We have fewer herpers so there's not the same market as the US. I'm sure if the animals were available there'd be people who would love to have them, but the shipping costs and hassles would probably nip it in the bud.
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There seems to be no organization among the herpers here.

Shipping costs and methods will never change without representation at a govermental level.

In the states I pay $10 a thousand for crickets. This is from a grower in Pennsylvania. Heat is needed for atleast 9 month's of the year. I really can't see why a place like BC couldn't have a grower. Why pay shipping costs from the states?

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Old 12-29-04, 09:31 AM   #6
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10 bucks for a 1000, wow if only such a deal existed here in canada. Well thats a bummer cause there are some real nice species out there.

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this is exactly why we need to join together and make something happen in the country. The main thing I think we need is education. People love chameleons, but people in some pet shops dont tell them they need to do there research before buying one, they want to sell the animal fast. So unexperienced people take them home and have them die on them in a week to a month, and I think the real probleme is some people just give up after having that experience. Education is the number one factor in my opinion.
What do you guys think about a canadian chameleon magazine. BUt alot of planning and thought has to be put into it. The long distance thing might be anouther probleme, but anything is possible these days with the good old internet. lol

As far as other things go I would like to become a full time breeder my self one day, hopefully with my own facility. But am stuck on either kingston, or somewhere in b.c for a location.
Currently enrolled into a business adminstration course for the fall. THis is something I have to do with my life not just a silly dream.

And hopefully from there work along side all you fine folks to get this business kicken in canada.

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10$ for thousand, what do you guys pay for yours out here? I get 1000's a petstore for 25$....
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I pay 20 per 1000
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28 1000...

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ya prices just went up to 28... it was 25... well i gotta get back into it... when you buy by the dozen it works l\out to like 100 bucks 1000
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I pay $10/1000 also from Pennsylvania. I have a Senegal Chameleon and my girlfriend has a bearded dragon so I usually place 2 orders per month. I have thought about breeding crickets and have everything nesessary but haven't done it yet. The ones I keep are still quiet - once they get to breeding size I believe they start chirping. Since I keep them in my bedroom, breeding might be out of the question.

I bought the Senegal Chameleon at a reptile show about 1 1/2 months ago for $10. I had a fecal done which surprisingly turn out to be clean. Here are two recent images. In the second one he's taking a shower.



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a chameleon like that here cost 50-65 and up, i pay 5.00 bucks for 50, the only reason i do this is because he gives me more then 50; he gives me like 200. Its crazy

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ya a guy does that for me to... i bought 3 dozen today and he gave me like 300 it was cool...
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ok so my post had no effect then
everyone likes to complain but no one wants to do something about it for some reason.
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