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12-11-04, 12:26 PM
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Burm Breeding
Hi there.....i just came across a pic on henry's site. This pic is from a series of pics showing the breeding cycle of burms.....but in this pic there are 3 burms.....does that mean you can have two females with one male or vice versa when the time to breed comes along?
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0.1 frilled dragon,1.0 reg burm, 1.1 alb burm, 0.1 rock, 1.1 bci, 1.1 ball, 0.1 green vine snake, 0.1.2 sav, 0.0.1 salvator, 0.0.1 nile, 1.0 dumerils, 3.1 green iggy,1.2 cuban......etc.
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12-11-04, 12:27 PM
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sorry forgot to add the pic
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0.1 frilled dragon,1.0 reg burm, 1.1 alb burm, 0.1 rock, 1.1 bci, 1.1 ball, 0.1 green vine snake, 0.1.2 sav, 0.0.1 salvator, 0.0.1 nile, 1.0 dumerils, 3.1 green iggy,1.2 cuban......etc.
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12-11-04, 01:55 PM
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It is quite common with Pythons to use an additional male for "combat" purposes. Sometimes the male will show zero interest in the female until there is some "competition" around. In the wild male Pythons "compete" for the right to mate all the time. Mark
P.S. Henry may just have a male in with 2 girls breeding them both though as not all males need "combat" to breed.
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12-11-04, 01:58 PM
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hmmm.....so what if you want her to breed with a certain male in spicific? i guess it woudnt be wise to have two males eh?..........and so its ok to have two females in with one male then?, will he be able to fertilizze both females?
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0.1 frilled dragon,1.0 reg burm, 1.1 alb burm, 0.1 rock, 1.1 bci, 1.1 ball, 0.1 green vine snake, 0.1.2 sav, 0.0.1 salvator, 0.0.1 nile, 1.0 dumerils, 3.1 green iggy,1.2 cuban......etc.
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12-11-04, 04:44 PM
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TIMMINSREPTILES:
Like Goneshakee said it is common with pythons to use 2 males on a female and all the above information included. Although if your breeding for something specific as you mention "certain male" then this 2 male idea will not work for you because you desire something specific from a certain male.
As for using 2 females, I rarily hear that as meaning 1 male 2 females in same cage, I do not know the pros/cons on that but I have not heard it either. Most people use 2 cages 1 female in each put the male with 1 and then later with the other.
Not sure what your planning on breeding but if its burmese pythons do alot of research before jumping into something blindly.
Cya...
Tony
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12-11-04, 06:45 PM
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thanx for the info........im not planning anything just curious cause of the pic i saw........i will be breeding burms and afr rocks in the future but im no where near beeing ready and yes i will do alot of research before i do anything, im not the type to jump into anything without doing thorough research before hand.
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12-11-04, 07:12 PM
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If you are considering Burms or Rocks, make sure you have "Competent" buyers lined up before doing so. These big ones are 2 of the most commonly "abused" species out there & are always popping up in rescues. Most people fail to realize the little snake they bought will be 8-10 ft in its first year & eating rabbits, pigs, goats etc. & will require a small room for an enclosure. Burms maybe but I wouldn't even consider Rocks IMHO they are for Zoos etc only. Mark
P.S. check out the various threads on how people are feeding their baby Burms mice etc. just to get a feel of the people that own these already that shouldn't. >(
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12-11-04, 07:24 PM
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wow.....like i said i was only here to ask a question regarding the pic.
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12-12-04, 02:39 PM
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Not trying to harp on ya LOL, but just throwing that in not just for you but others reading the thread also. Too many Burms are aquired by people who are looking to get rid of them less than a year later because they can't take care of them anymore. They are a lifetime commitment IMHO & anyone considering breeding them should consider all these factors. Cheers Mark
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12-12-04, 03:21 PM
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P.S. check out the various threads on how people are feeding their baby Burms mice etc. just to get a feel of the people that own these already that shouldn't.
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I don’t quite follow what you’re getting at, should baby burms not be feed mice?? or did you mean people feeding adult burms mice ? That I have heard of and it is ridiculous, but I see nothing wrong with babies eating mice. On your second point I agree completely there are a lot of people out there with burms who shouldn’t have them, they get to big too fast for somebody who isn’t ready for that sort of animal.
Devon
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12-12-04, 03:25 PM
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For the size of a burm hatchling i start them right off the bat with rats and bby rabbits of the right size.........this way you dont get problems when it comes time to switch them, all you have to do is increase the size.
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0.1 frilled dragon,1.0 reg burm, 1.1 alb burm, 0.1 rock, 1.1 bci, 1.1 ball, 0.1 green vine snake, 0.1.2 sav, 0.0.1 salvator, 0.0.1 nile, 1.0 dumerils, 3.1 green iggy,1.2 cuban......etc.
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12-12-04, 04:16 PM
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I started both my burms on mice, sure they outgrow them quickly, but there is no problem with that, not like it’s hard to switch them over to rats. They’ll eat anything you drop in with them I may have gotten lucky though, I suppose if you were worried about switching them you could just start right on one food source. And increase the size as they grow.
Devon
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12-13-04, 06:05 PM
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If I was to keep them, which I can't legally even if I wanted too I would do as timmins stated, why even bother with mice at all. Cheers Mark
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12-13-04, 06:43 PM
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Mine out grew mice within its first few feedings...was a hatchling when i got it...wasn't power feeding or over feeding either...burms do grow AMAZINGLY quickly. I was prepared for that when I got mine since I did my co op at the reptile zoo in ottawa, and knew of a few people with them. But their growing rate when young really did surprice me even with all the info I had before hand.(doesn't mean I wasn't prepared thought).
I think burms make great snakes....BUT ONLY IN THE RIGHT HANDS. I do not beleive just anybody should have a burm. They truly are the iguana of the large snakes unfortunetly with so many of them up for adoption
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