can u house these 3 together?

soupedmx3 · 11-23-04, 09:51 PM

Green Basilisk ,Aussie water dragon,Green Water Dragon can they all be house together in the same enclosure?
if so wat size would be best they are all around the 10'' mark

Clownfishie · 11-23-04, 10:00 PM

No, you can't house them all together. It's best not to house even members of the same species together, nevermind members of several different species. Different species have different requirements in order to thrive -- read some caresheets to figure out what those conditions are for the species that you're keeping (which should be done BEFORE purchasing the animal in question in the future), and set up an appropriate enclosure to meet those requirements for each one.

I'm no expert on any of those species, but to the best of my knowledge they each require fairly spacious enclosures as they all grow to a decent size -- I would definitely think somemthing along the lines of 4x2x2 would be in order, if not larger.

Hope that helps,
Jen

soupedmx3 · 11-23-04, 10:11 PM

i dont own any of these right now i was just wondering
thanks

Manitoban Herps · 11-23-04, 11:06 PM

All three of those are very terriotrial.

I have heard CWD's and GB's being housed together several times together without problems. But I have also heard of times when one is ripped to shreads together.

Mystic Lizzards · 11-23-04, 11:11 PM

they will kill each other if not provided the right space(4ft long 3ft tall 2ft deep per animal)

concept3 · 11-24-04, 12:22 AM

I was doing some Light reading today and came across this, AND I quote. " we do not agree with the righteous, narrow-minded assertions by "experts" that geckos and other reptile species should never be kept with other species. The highest form of herpetoculture involves creating large complex vivarium systems where several species of animals, including invertebrates, will cohabit and breed"
"At the onset, you should be aware that designing systems with several species is an experimental process. Successful models for these systems developed by other hobbyists are usually the best guids for species combinations." end quote (Philippe de Vosjoli, Frank Fast, Allen Repashy)
So soupedmx, do lots of reasearch make sure they have similiar requirments, and try to find anyone who has ever succesfully did It. Also research, research, research lol You get the point.

HeatherRose · 11-24-04, 12:32 AM

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The highest form of herpetoculture involves creating large complex vivarium systems where several species of animals, including invertebrates, will cohabit and breed

Why not form your own opinions instead of copying and pasting someone elses?

We've all provided proven, fact-ridden reasons on why not to do this, while you've implied 'why not give it a shot, cause these guys said it was ok...therefore it must be so'.

DragnDrop · 11-24-04, 12:39 AM

Notice "creating large complex vivarium systems " Emphasis on LARGE COMPLEX. How many typical hobbyists do that? The 3 species in the original post need large enclosures just for one specimen to be really happy. Now mix 3 of them and you're talking an enclosure the size of a small room.
The quote seems to be from the Rhacodactylus book. If you read the entire section where that was quoted from, you'll see there's more to it than just mixing species. Part of it is carefully selecting the species that will live together in harmony in a proper sized enclosure that you can maintain properly. Typical hobbyists don't do that.

Clownfishie · 11-24-04, 12:48 AM

Concept, I believe that in certain circumstances such a setup would be feasible -- IF a great deal of research was put into it beforehand as to which species could co-exist and thrive under the same conditions due to living in the same habitat in the wild. THIS is what Vosjoli is talking about, NOT about throwing together whatever the heck species you feel like into the same cage and expecting them to survive and thrive.

Since (to the best of my knowledge) none of the species that Souped has mentioned live in the same region in the wild, it would NOT be a good idea for him to attempt keeping them together. Especially with species where aggression/territoriality may be a concern, and given how large all of those species grow.

Jen

Manitoban Herps · 11-24-04, 07:52 AM

Like I said, I think I am the only one in the conversation who have mixed species together, look for species with the same habitat and/or in the same location.

Try this if you like:
0.1.0 Crocodile Gecko, costed my 39.99$
0.1.0 Med.Gecko, costed my 9.99$
0.1.0 Green Anole, costed 12.99
and another green anole I got for free is in quaritine.

concept3 · 11-24-04, 07:56 AM

I was just throwing In another point of view. It has been done and is possible, but as Hilde said pointed out you need a very large enclosure.

Ptindy · 11-24-04, 02:49 PM

I believe it can be done, not with those species. That would be awesome to see something like that and anyone who will put in the time to research and experiment this is an awesome addition to our shared addiction. I personally wouldn't keep any species together as I haven't researched it and don't have the means to pay for something like this. But I was thinking I could do something like that in the near future with a nice long tall vivarium in the wall along the head of my KING SIZE bed. There will be a little room where I can access it with a door to service the enclosure. This is my dream haha.

Mike