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09-28-04, 07:37 PM
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Pine Photos
After doing some more research I think I may have a Northern. But a "red-phase". The pics are very fuzzy and so large I have to post links, lol. I'm sry bout that.
But let me know what you think.
Pine photo
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09-28-04, 09:20 PM
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Picture is pretty bad but I don't see much red?
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09-28-04, 10:02 PM
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Don't see much of anything really.
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09-29-04, 12:17 AM
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It looks like channel 8 back home on my dads farmervision tv
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Who that little guy.... I wouldnt worry about that little guy
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09-29-04, 12:20 AM
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You could have told me they were picturs of bananas and I would have to take your word for it! lol j/k  
Try again but from further away. 
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09-29-04, 08:14 AM
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Ouch my photography skills are bein poked fun of. LOL~
Well heres a better one i think. Slightly better pic
what does it look like to you guys? Heh, its a fatty also.
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09-29-04, 08:55 AM
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Vanan
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09-29-04, 10:47 AM
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Heh so does it look like a Louie or a Northern?
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09-29-04, 11:38 AM
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Northern at first glace but I haven't seen much ruthveni babies so I can't tell the difference between the two.
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09-29-04, 01:43 PM
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Looks like a northern to me.... but again the picture isn't that clear. Sometimes the red phase don't develop much red until they're a bit older. It's the same species regardless....
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09-29-04, 01:50 PM
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It's the same species regardless....
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How is P. ruthveni and P. melanoleucus considered the same species?! Unless of course that's not what you meant.
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Vanan
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09-29-04, 02:40 PM
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Just a quick question Vanan. I thought that a southern pine, a northern pine and a louisiana pine were all the same species of snake but different sub-species. Please correct me if I am way off track and explain it to me too. Thanks.
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09-29-04, 03:00 PM
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Genus species subspecies
Pituophis melanoleucus melanoleucus Northern Pine
Pituophis m. mugitus Southern Pine
Pituophis m. lodingi Black Pine
Pituophis ruthveni Louisiana Pine
Google it.
Northerns, southerns and the blacks are all different subspecies of the same species.
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09-29-04, 03:08 PM
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Ok, thats what I said. Im confused. Am I wrong or right????? So Pine is the species and northern, southern, black, lousiana is the sub-species right?
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09-29-04, 03:12 PM
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The louisiana pine is it's own species, not a ssp. of the rest.
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Vanan
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