Mojave question

CamHanna · 08-29-04, 11:32 PM

I've read some contradicting info on mojaves. Some sources say that the trait is dominant and other sources call it co-dom, but (to my knowledge) there has never been a super mojave produced. How can they be sure that it is co-dom by seeing only the het form?

Thank You
Cam Hanna

hhw · 08-29-04, 11:39 PM

I'm just taking a wild stab at this, but perhaps some people call it codominant because the offspring of a mojave and a normal are half mojave and half normal, and other people call it dominant because there is no super form. I think the prior is correct, as the dictionary definition of codominant does not imply anything about a super form.

Ron · 08-29-04, 11:41 PM

I think people believe a Leucistic is the Super but I don't think a Leucistic has been produced from a Mojave x Mojave yet.

Eric · 08-30-04, 12:05 AM

No one has been successful in producing a clutch of Mojave to Mojave. I don't think the Snake Keeper has gotten one clutch yet, but I'm sure they will have it proven out by next season. Yes many Dominate traits are called Co-Dominate before they are even proven. I also agree with Ron that alot of believe the Leucistic is the Super Form.

hhw · 08-30-04, 01:01 PM

"In genetics, the term dominant gene refers to the an allele that causes a phenotype that is seen in a heterozygous genotype. Strictly, it is the phenotype (or trait) which is dominant, not the gene."

"Codminant Gene - A set of two or more alleles, each expressed phenotypically in the presence of the other."

In other words, ignore what I said earlier :P

Corey Woods · 08-30-04, 01:55 PM

Last year 3 clutches of Mojave x Mojave were produced and only Mojaves and normals were produced.

Corey

NiagaraReptiles · 08-30-04, 01:59 PM

There were three clutches of Mojave to Mojave breeding in 2003 (between Morph King and Snake Keeper I believe) totalling around 18 eggs. Nothing more than Mojave's were produced......either the trait is Dominant or they're really missing the odds

I hear there are more clutches due to hatch any time now as well, so we will see. Personally, I'll agree with the others in that it is a dominant mutation and that the Leucistic is linked to the Lesser Platinum gene........

JonK

CamHanna · 08-30-04, 04:07 PM

I see...

Thank You.

RandyRemington · 08-31-04, 05:57 AM

I hadn't heard about the mojave X mojave clutches. Not that big of a surprise as there are lots of secrets and I'm not particularly in the know. I had expected that cross well before now but at some point (last year?, maybe early in the season) I saw a post where SK said the cross hadn't been made yet.

Just to double-check, are you sure the breedings you are thinking of where mojave x mojave? The reason I ask is because I seem to remember about that number of eggs from mojave X pastel without pastave before this year so was wondering if the two where confused. I was sure based on those odds that the mojave and pastel where somehow incompatible but then they start popping up this year so I guess it is possible to mis even on that many eggs.

justinO · 08-31-04, 07:56 AM

I saw the mojave pastels, they looked amazing, but by no means a super. They were mojaves with bright yellow as the circles!

I like the classic ones myself, of most morphs..... but the supers need to be tried too!

Jessy

RandyRemington · 09-06-04, 04:52 PM

NiagaraReptiles,

I checked with SnakeKeeper and MorphKing and neither have yet produced any eggs from Mojave X Mojave. I think you and I bet also Corey where thinking of Mojave X Pastel. As of 9/4 Colette reports not knowing of anyone producing Mojave X Mojave eggs. Hopefully there will be some Mojave X Mojave clutches next year to answer if the super Mojave is leucistic or not.