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07-28-04, 01:26 AM
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Please help ID snakes
Hello all! I am new to this forum, but have been interested in wildlife for some time. I was able to find these snakes and was wondering if anyone would please I.D. them. I found them about 20 miles inland from the S.E. Georgia coast in open areas flanked by heavy woods and rivers. Thanks!
Here are the links to the pictures:
http://img52.exs.cx/img52/9928/snake.jpg
http://img52.exs.cx/img52/3932/snake2.jpg
P.S. Great forum!
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07-28-04, 01:53 AM
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The reddish one's a garter (Thamnophis sirtalis maybe?). They aren't normally coloured like that and I don't have a field guide on hand so I can't be sure what species. The other is an immature yellow ratsnake (Pantherophis [formerly Elaphe] obsoleta quadra something), again I don't have my field guid so sorry I can't give you the ssp name, hopefully someone more informed will get to this thread soon.
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07-28-04, 10:42 AM
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Looks like Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis and a Pantherophis alleganiensis (formerly known as P. obsoletus quadrivittatus) to me.
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Last edited by Vanan; 07-28-04 at 10:46 AM..
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07-28-04, 11:57 AM
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I would say Thamnophis sirtalis marcianus, red sided garter.
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07-28-04, 12:24 PM
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I would say Thamnophis sirtalis marcianus, red sided garter.
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?! Never heard of that one but I've heard of T. marcianus, the checkered garter. 
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"The day I tried to live, I wallowed in the blood and mud with all the other pigs" - C. Cornell
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07-28-04, 12:51 PM
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I tried looking for Pantherophis alleganiensis on google put didn't find it. When was the name changed? What did they do with the everglades ratsnake? Do you have a link?
Thank You
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07-28-04, 03:02 PM
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did you take them from the wild, do you still have them? WHat do you plan to do with them?
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07-28-04, 03:09 PM
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Hey, thanks alot for helping me with this! I have been trying to research and figure this out for some time now!
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07-28-04, 03:15 PM
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Yes, I got them from the wild, but released them where I got them once I photographed them.
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07-28-04, 05:57 PM
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catching wild reptiles
I don't recommend it..... and would rather say.. DON'T DO IT
leave them alone
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07-28-04, 06:23 PM
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Re: catching wild reptiles
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Originally posted by wiseman001
I don't recommend it..... and would rather say.. DON'T DO IT
leave them alone
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What? He just photographed them and released them back... problem?
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07-28-04, 06:48 PM
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yeah i dont see a problem with that at all
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07-28-04, 10:22 PM
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Pantherophis alleganiensis. The name was changed just recently. The glades rat is the same thing as the yellow rat, just a colour variant.
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07-28-04, 11:30 PM
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Is that pronounced al-i-gan-yen-sis?
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07-29-04, 12:05 AM
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Sort of, I guess. I only read it of a Reptiles issue.
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