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06-16-04, 09:00 AM
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Location: Washago Ontario
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Pygmy Cham Egg question.
What ratio of medium to water do you use for pygmy eggs??
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06-17-04, 11:25 AM
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Not too sure, but I have heard you use vermiculite, wet it, and squeeze out all of the water, as much as you can, and use it like that.
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06-17-04, 11:28 AM
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I used a 1:1 ratio of perlite to water by weight and the eggs went bad. Just thought maybe it was too much water that spoiled them.
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06-17-04, 11:36 AM
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Describe what happened to them.
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06-17-04, 11:39 AM
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after about a week two went moldy and started to cave in the other two aren't moldy but they're pretty yellowish. I'll try and get a pic later today.
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06-17-04, 04:51 PM
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Sounds to me like they aren't fertile to begin with. My fertilized Rhampholeon eggs are pink from the get go when I candle them and the few duds I get are yellow.
Cheers!
Trace
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06-17-04, 06:02 PM
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Location: Kamloops, British Columbia
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How do you incubate them Trace?
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06-17-04, 06:43 PM
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They were definatly not fertile then. There were pretty yellow when she laid them.
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06-17-04, 06:52 PM
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Brock: I use the ubiquitous 1:1 ratio of vermiculite to water by weight for incubation. The trick is to keep the eggs cool during the process.
Cheers!
Trace
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06-18-04, 12:22 AM
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Keep them cool eh. Would room tempurature yeild a high hatch rate? Would they be somewhat like Uroplatus geckos in respects to tempuratures?
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06-18-04, 06:05 AM
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Would they be somewhat like Uroplatus geckos in respects to tempuratures?
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Ummmmmmmm... sure!!?!?!?! LOL! Honestly Brock, you know more about the Uroplatus species than I do. I'm hoping someone else can give you a definative answer for that.
I do not own an incubator, so mine are kept at room temperature while they "cook" for me. I've found that warmer temperatures do make the Rhamphs hatch a little faster, but I don't think the babies are as strong for it. This is based on MY experience only and I like to keep mine around the 72 to 74 degree area for incubation.
Are you working with these little monsters now? I remember you were interested in getting some last year.
Cheers!
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06-18-04, 09:52 AM
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Okay, now you got me curious. Room temperature what time of the year? In the summer, we do have air conditioning but that’s not to say it doesn't get hot. How hot is too hot?
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06-18-04, 11:06 AM
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Like trace said 72-74 is good up or down a bit alsoalthough not extreem, the point is to keep them in a place where the temps do not fluxiate much at all.
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06-18-04, 12:16 PM
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Vipervenom: I would say 78 would be a good steady 'high' tempurature.
Trace: Yeah I am still really interested in getting some, but I just can't find any at all, ever, anywhere, nilch, nada, nothing. No one in BC seems to have them, and I went to a show in Alberta and I couldn't find any. I'm going to move on to the thing I wanted to get after pygmy chams, which is Uroplatus geckos. I just e-mailed Neil Meister (world renouned Uroplatus breeder) yesterday and I'll probably get a pair near the end of the summer. So I'm saving up for that, but if I can find a pair or trio of pygmys for under $100 I would probably take them and put the Uroplatus on hold for a little longer.
I like how you incubate them at a lower tempurature to insure healtheir hatchlings, that's what this species needs, in my opinion. How many have you had successfully hatch so far? And how many to go? I was really really happy to read your post about the great breeding, I just wish I could be in cahoots with you and we could trade offspring for new blood!
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06-18-04, 03:14 PM
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I'd be surprised to see a pair of brevs for under $100. I got my wild caught for $60. I'm going to breed them as soon as I get get my paws on a couple nice females.
Just another incubating question, I have a place of steady temperature, but my room where the brevs are is usually around 80. Would you think that is too warm or would it be better in the slightly cooler basement. Again, in an area where there is little fluctuation.
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