This is rediculous!!!!!!!!!!!

Gregg M · 03-02-04, 07:49 AM

All of my post are being deleted on KS because of my stance against venomoids....... I posted the legalities and the seriousness of what KS is allowing to be sold on the site and they keep knocking my post off the board....... Then the guy tried to say that he had to hear a ton of crap from people about selling venomous on his site........ I simply replied that it is not illegal to sell hots but it is illegal to make venomoids if the persons are not licensed...... That reply has not been deleted yet but all the others I posted were........ That site is on a fast downward curve and is about to hit bottom because of the amount of illegal void sales they allow.......... I hat to look in the ads because every other post is a venomoid for sale....... It is sickening.......

Matt · 03-02-04, 08:02 AM

gotta love censorship, maybe they should get off their high horse for once!

Dani33 · 03-02-04, 08:08 AM

That is so sad. I just went and looked at the classifieds. The poor things look scarred w/ sunken heads. It sorta made me feel like crying. The shape of thier heads are a part of what makes them so beautiful. I agree with Matt about censorship.

Mustangrde1 · 03-02-04, 08:11 AM

Gregg You and I just talked about this subject and I never post on KS but send me a link and i will be more then happy to fire off the laws and ramifications that they themselves could possibly face for allowing it. Ya I know it will be deleted but you know how i love to stirr **** when this subject comes up. and Post it to the BOI as well im sure many will love to see the censorship.

BoidKeeper · 03-02-04, 08:19 AM

You've got my support Gregg. Keep fighting the good fight. Not eveybody rolls over, good to see.
Cheers bro,
Trevor

Gregg M · 03-02-04, 08:34 AM

Its funny how they allow the breeders and dealer that sell on their site to say whatever they please without post being deleted........ Someone like You or me cant say how we feel........ Money talks, I guess..... And thanks Trevor......

Gregg M · 03-02-04, 09:18 AM

Unreal!!!!!!!!!!! They did it again to two of my post........ I am pretty much done with that site.......... Think I will keep going until they ban me......LOL....... Too bad not all forums can be as great as the ones on this site......... You mods do a great job out here........ Thanks for giving us a great place to hang........

carpetman · 03-02-04, 09:24 AM

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Gregg M · 03-02-04, 09:44 AM

Now did you have to go there???????LOL....... I want to keep this in good nature so I wont rant........ I will just give you a few reasons why voids in general are bad........ I am sure you love snakes as much as me and maybe you will take something from this and change how you feel........ The majority of venomoids being sold are not done by licensed people....... This means they are done in less than clean environments........ There is also no pain reliefe meds given to the snakes after an operation....... They are pretty much hacked into and closed up........ Imagine you having some teeth pulled with no pain meds........ Does not sound like a day in the park to me....... Also, the majority of the animals operated on die during or shortly after the "operation"........ Do you know how many die before one actually lives???? Some species even suffer for longer because the venom that is used to break down tissue is no longer there, so the snake actually starves to death but very slowly......... I had a rescued venomoid gaboon viper that was poopin out half digested mice........ Can you explain that???? All my other hot gaboons are thriving but the one void died due to starvation when I fed it as frequently as all my others........ The necropcy was done by a vet...... No signs of a virus, bateria, or worms to put it simply......... It staved to death....... Plus the fact is, the operations are illegal......... You can not practice vetinary medicine with out a vetinary license........ I hope you would change your views on this and hold back from ever buying a venomoid........ All you will be doing is supporting the inhumane treatment of reptiles........

carpetman · 03-02-04, 09:56 AM

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Gregg M · 03-02-04, 10:14 AM

Hey Carpetman,
I can say 100% that the big majority of voids being produced are done buy garage hacks........ I am sure there is more than one person that will have no problem backing that up........ The fact is a very low % of vets will even see a hot snake and an even lower % of them will preform the operation........ If you look in all the venomoid ads, not one of them says the operations were done by a licensed vet....... Not a single one........ They may say profetionally done but that is just a missleading statement to make you think it was done by vet without having to say it.......

BoidKeeper · 03-02-04, 10:26 AM

It donesn't matter who's doing the surgery, it's mutalating an animal. It's unessacery surgery. It's even worse then de-clawing a cat. If you don't want you house scratched up don't get a cat. If you can't handle the risk with the venom intact get a corn.
Trevor

marisa · 03-02-04, 10:31 AM

Gregg you would have fun reading Web Wars & Cult Headqaurters forum over at fauna. LOL Its filled with stories just like these.

I was banned from that site a year ago. Don't even bother with their forums anymore even if I wasn't.

Marisa

Dani33 · 03-02-04, 10:36 AM

I agree with Trevor. Would you remove dog's set of teeth because it has the potential to bite, or a parrots beak? Imagine someone did that to a pup by someone who wasn't qualified to do it, no anesthetic or pain medication. I am hoping that you would be outraged! To me it's the same thing. Plain out horrific.

carpetman · 03-02-04, 10:36 AM

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