dumb questions

Darren179 · 02-27-04, 12:41 AM

now I got a curious question are there any chams that do well in groups like leos or others do or is this not possible with any chams? just curious question pondering in my mind.

huhet · 02-27-04, 01:33 AM

you can keep a group of pygmies. only one male, but multiple females.

Bighead · 02-27-04, 01:59 AM

You can keep two males in the enclosure with a group of females if the enclosure is large enough, i.e. 50+ gal. with 2.4 Pygmies. There may be an occasional spat, but there should be enough room for both of them to have their own territory and choice of mates.

Bighead · 02-27-04, 02:00 AM

btw, anybody know of a breeder in BC or Washington state?

Darren179 · 02-27-04, 07:58 AM

are pygmies the only kind?

DragnDrop · 02-27-04, 08:34 AM

Apparently if you have a large (room sized) enclosure, you could keep a male jacksons with 2 or 3 females, but it's still iffy. I wouldn't try it.

Darren179 · 02-27-04, 10:43 AM

well my Mom hates most herps however she loves chams she was gonna give me the money to get a custom 8x4x4 cham cage done for the living room if we could have 3 or 4 in it now I know the basis about chams but im trying to read as much as I can even got a book so I could see if this is possible without risking the health of the chams

Collide · 02-27-04, 04:43 PM

You should not keep chams as a colneny unless u have cirtain type of cham ie. Pigmys, rudis, honnelli, and i think i would even want to seperate the rudis and honneli if i could. Having a male with femals causes lots of stress if you had to house some togeather i would say stick with females only, males you cant put togeather they will fight, and the females will fight sometimes too so u have to be careful. There are some people that can do it successfully, but I think it will cause alot of stress on your animals and eventually lead to a much shorter lifespan for them. Buils mutipulk cages. Of course thats just my opinion.

Darren179 · 02-27-04, 10:27 PM

yah I think im gonna scrap it make a smaller one and just keep one male veiled

meow_mix450 · 02-27-04, 10:28 PM

Bigger cage the better, less competition for room, but i wouldnt put males together, i would only put females, like collide said, its possible that females would fight as well. Darren, if your looking for pigmy's, most of them right now are wild caught. If you were to stick chameleons with leos, i bet the cham would try and take a bite, i heard storys about chameleon eating lizards, but that could be a urban legend. IMO i would get a male panther, Nosy be, or another speices of panther

Meow

vipervenom · 02-28-04, 11:00 AM

I have heard that if females are living together, and even a picture of a male, the females would turn on each other and from there on never be kept together again. I have also heard about females competing for a male!

But yes, most of the leaf chameleons (brookesiia, rhampholeon) can live in a colony of 2-3 females to one male. As some has mentioned, it is possible, providing the cage is large enough, to keep 2 males int he smae cage. But you should monitor it. But one hting about the pygmies and such, they are very very small and not very good show chameleons if that's what you are looking for.

Also if your cage is very very big, it may be possible to keep a pair or trio of Jacksons, Rudis or Carpets int he same cage. But it must be VERY closely monitered. I have also read in books that the author has kept a trio of Veields in a large outside step-in cage. I would not reccommend this at all. Veileds (every chams different), have been classified as one of the most solitary, territorial chameleons ever. But, it is possible I suppose.

panther_dude · 03-11-04, 01:45 AM

the jacksons are perfect candidates for a cage that huge thats wicked. I would go with the jacksons. Ive studied them for about a year and a know lots of people keep them in couples as long as they have enough room and hiding spots for the female too retreat to. Must creat 2 or 3 differents basking sites also

Bighead · 03-11-04, 03:30 PM

Isn't it tough to feed chams in an enclosure that big? What's the trick? Cup feeding?

Drew S · 03-11-04, 03:34 PM

Feeding them by putting their food in suspeneded dishes works, just put one on each side so they don't fight. Orif they are housed seperately just hand feed them by holding the crickets infront of them.

meow_mix450 · 03-11-04, 04:21 PM

well how do you think they do it in the wild lol, some people cup feed, some people throw a dozen in and the next day there gone, but i perfer them to hunt, cause they enjoy that, but thats my opinion

Meow