sign of hets

orion_dv8 · 02-09-04, 06:04 PM

Aside from proving is there any way to even get a remote idea if the BP is a het for something, i heard someone say that pied hets had black striping on the belly towards the tail end any thruth to this?
ORION

snakehunter · 02-09-04, 06:17 PM

no hets have no indication of recesive genetic traits, thats why they are recessive

orion_dv8 · 02-09-04, 06:18 PM

silly me, duh!!!
ORION

Bartman · 02-09-04, 09:27 PM

I always think of this, cant some *** just say, yea these are 75 percent for axanthic piebald spider (way over exagerated) and you pay 7000 for it and it turns out to leave no babys like that..then the guy could just say i guess thats the one that wasnt het....what can you say, or do?

672 · 02-09-04, 09:58 PM

Buy from a reputable breeder, request pictures of the parents etc etc. When you're shelling out the cash for a het animal, You'd like to know what you're paying for.

RandyRemington · 02-10-04, 06:57 AM

I'm thinking that "recessive" is a neat idea that people thought up and that in the real world things aren't always so cut and dry. It would be nice if every mutation fell neatly into either recessive, co-dominant, or dominant but I've seen good evidence that some "recessive" pattern mutations show up in a sort of co-dominant way in SOME individual hets. To make things even more confusing, SOME hets don't show these same mutations. That's life, messy.

Here is a thread on another site on this subject:

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...threadid=21911

rwg · 02-10-04, 10:51 AM

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Originally posted by Bartman
I always think of this, cant some *** just say, yea these are 75 percent for axanthic piebald spider (way over exagerated) and you pay 7000 for it and it turns out to leave no babys like that.

If you're buying hets you can prove them through breeding, and then whoop some butt if you got ripped off. Possible hets are a gamble even from a reputable breeders. Buy from someone you dont trust, and the gamble increases. Possible hets shouldn't cost anything near as much as proven hets. From what I've seen they're just a bit more than normals.

rg

emroul · 02-10-04, 11:48 AM

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Originally posted by rwg
If you're buying hets you can prove them through breeding, and then whoop some butt if you got ripped off.

The only thing with that is, if you don't buy from a reputable breeder, and ESPECIALLY if you buy hatchlings or animals that cannot be proven out for a few years, chances are the "breeder" will be long gone, and no one will know who you are talking about or where this person is from, etc. There's a LOT of people out there just in it for the money, and if they find out that a $900 het albino female looks like a $35 animal, why not? There are also alot of buyers who will believe them, even without paperwork.

So just be sure to buy from a very reputable breeder, do your research on this person, etc. Know who you are dealing with.

Jennifer

Bristen · 02-12-04, 01:11 PM

I think there is one exception to the rule... the "Red Axanthics" (Corey Woods line) are black back patterned if they are hets. It's the only "hets" that are are "visible hets" that I've ever heard of. I guess one could question if it's actually a "recessive gene" or something more complicated than that (such as multiple switches required to actually get the desired mutation... the black back gene may be required with something else... at some point, maybe we will be able to seperate two seperate genes?)

Anyways, just thought I'd throw that one in the soup for good mesure

Bristen.