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Old 12-19-03, 01:48 AM   #1
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Black Widows in Grapes....*PICS*

Greetings,
I just wanted to share my newest stowaway rescue story: a beautiful Latrodectus hesperus that hitched a ride into Ontario on a bunch of grapes to be sold in a grocery store.
First, this arachnid is absolutely amazing! The tensile strength of their web is incredible (in fact, the silk is used for the cross-hairs in some rifle scopes). She is a voracious feeder: I will put a cricket in the freezer for a few seconds to slow it down and then I will wind the cricket in her web, as the cricket warms up and starts kicking she is alerted and quickly encases it in silk and spends the rest of the day externally digesting it and sucking up the contents. Another thing I find interesting is how active they can be, as is the case when I give her a weekly misting. She will roam her quarters and ingest any small water droplet she can find! Very neat.
Anyway, enough rambling, here are some pics:




For those interested in a quick taxonomy lesson (I find this very interesting), I have a photo of her underside that aided in my identification of L. hesperus:

L. hesperus is also known as the Western Widow, they are blackish in colouration with the ventral red hourglass mark complete (no separation between the triangles). Also the anterior triangle part is usually longer and broader than the posterior triangle (as is evident in the photo). Also, there is no red spot above the anal tubercle (just above spinnerets) which is characteristic of L. hesperus. The Western Widow occurs in the Western United States and Canada, which to me, is consistent with the likely origin of the grapes.
For comparison, I also just happen to have a nice underbelly shot of Latrodectus mactans:

Now, L. mactans usually has a separated hourglass mark, this girl doesn't (there is obviously some variation within populations). Also, the anterior triangle is usually more of a round rectangle than a triangle (as can be seen in the photo). Also this spider often has a red spot just above anal tubercle (just above spinnerets) (very evident in this photo). L. mactans occurs primarily from Massachusetts to Florida and West to Texas, Oklahoma, and Kansas, but is most common in Southern states (I found this girl in Virginia).
Anyway, I hope you enjoyed the pictures and thanks for letting me ramble about the taxonomy, I just think it is very interesting to see the differences visually (instead of just reading about the differences between L. hesperus and L. mactans).....
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Old 12-19-03, 08:18 AM   #2
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my dad used to work with the guy whose grapes it was in - lol
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Thanks for the info and pictures! What are the husbandry requirements like?
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great....now i want one! thats some great info RM you sure know your stuff
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Old 12-19-03, 10:43 AM   #5
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I say put it in the freezer! Can they survive in Canada if they become introduced?
Great pics,
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Old 12-19-03, 10:53 AM   #6
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Re: Black Widows in Grapes....*PICS*

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I say put it in the freezer! Can they survive in Canada if they become introduced?
Well that would certainly defeat the purpose of my 400km trek to spare her from such a fate......

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The Western Widow occurs in the Western United States and Canada
Most of my professional work is in conservation biology, you can take my word that she is no threat in her critter keeper.
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Old 12-19-03, 11:16 AM   #7
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Great pictures, congrats!
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I love Black Widows, very nice spider!
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Very cool. Nice pics, thanks for sharing.
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Old 12-19-03, 12:37 PM   #10
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Great work from sparing her life~
A job well done!!!
The photos are great too and great explaination of the taxonomy~ a lesson learned~
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Old 12-19-03, 12:49 PM   #11
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Really neat widow there...
I used to keep widows and other personal interesting inverts as a youngin'. Widows are common down here if one knows where to look. A few years back when I was removing a few rattlers from under a trailor house, I removed the skirting to reveal literally 1000's of the lil' black beauties. A bit shocking to know for the home owner (I also was a resident in the household) but I thought it was pretty cool none the less. I also would find many widows in the grapes I got from the local grape producers. Found a few AZ Recluse as well. Great place to live if your food source is small bugs.
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Very nice, but keep it the heck away from me.
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What are the husbandry requirements like?
Pretty simple as far as I can tell. Information is seriously lacking with regards to captive rearing (and rightly so). It would be irresponsible of me to advocate the keeping of these arachnids, however, since they do possess a potent neurotoxin (however they are not dangerous at all in the sense that they will only bite if crushed).
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Pretty simple as far as I can tell. Information is seriously lacking with regards to captive rearing (and rightly so). It would be irresponsible of me to advocate the keeping of these arachnids, however, since they do possess a potent neurotoxin (however they are not dangerous at all in the sense that they will only bite if crushed).
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Understood. I don't think I will ever keep a spider as a pet, but I do find them very interesting, from a distance.
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i'm not a big fan of spiders. pretty though!
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