Colledge Yes or No ?

jaybox_reptiles · 11-06-03, 04:15 PM

Hi all i no i am only in hi school but every one keeps telling me its time to start thinking about colledge i no without a doubt that i am going to go but the thing is i have never been real good with school ( im dislexic and dont take crap from the teachers) so im wondering if i should just go for a year and get a buisness degree or go for foour years and get a masters degree what do you all thin about my situation? thx

Jay

Yness · 11-06-03, 04:19 PM

I took a comunity college 10 month Pharmacy technician course.
I got a decent job but am not where I want to be so now I am in University. I think that route may be appropriate for you. It gives you the opportunity to see how you will do in post-secondary education with out risking your university GPA.

Turtle Matt · 11-06-03, 04:27 PM

Maybe you should learn to spell college before you attend

..Just kidding of course.
Matt

cpt_retic · 11-06-03, 04:32 PM

I'm taking trades . 6 month school training , then 4 years on the job trianing , and you get paid for it. It's good money . I get $14 an h for my first year , after 5 years I will be getting $25-$35 an h.
And some companies will pay you double time if you work overtime. Not time and a half. Cool huh! All I have to do is go to school 6 weeks a year, and my employer pays that.
Good luck.
Plumbers rule: ***** runs down hill, Paydays are every other Friday, and never forget to wash your hands before you eat.

Syst3m · 11-06-03, 04:33 PM

You absolutely need higher education. I don't know what school you can go to and get a business degree in a year or what school offers a masters in only 4. But if you want to make any real money without breaking your back then go to college. I'm dyslexic too not to mention a ton of other labels my doctors slapped on me when I was a kid. But don't let that prevent you from acheiving your goals. You don't want to be stuck in a crap job for the rest of your life barely making enough to pay your way not to mention not being able to afford the better things in life.

Now I'm not saying that you can't acheive wealth without college, but unless you've got a real plan with real goals, start with school.

Edit : After reading Zoe's post. I have one thing to add, why don't you start respecting your teachers and working with them instead of working against them. Teachers don't teach because its good pay, they teach because they want to help people. It will serve you no purpose to buck the system when you want to succeed.

Zoe · 11-06-03, 04:34 PM

Hi,
Well, it's always a good route to take if you don't want to get stuck with a minimum wage job. You can go somewhere without any secondary education, but not nearly as far as you can with a college education. Also, I don't believe you can get a master's from College.
The advantage of college is that it takes you only a few years and you are already specialized, as opposed to university which is much broader.

Oh, you'll need to chill on the teacher thing... it's not like highschool at all, the teachers there don't put up with crap from their students because they don't really care. If they pass, they pass, if not, they know there are more people willing to do the work. It isn't like that in all cases, but college profs aren't pushovers like some highschools teachers are.

Zoe

Syst3m · 11-06-03, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Turtle Matt
Maybe you should learn to spell college before you attend..Just kidding of course.
Matt

LOL, I hate correcting spelling because I know that I'm horrible at it but there was a comedical value to seeing about 10 spelling mistakes in a post about someone needing higher education.

Jeff_Favelle · 11-06-03, 04:47 PM

Quote:

so im wondering if i should just go for a year and get a buisness degree

You'll need to go a lot longer than a YEAR to get a degree. LOL! Try FOUR years, minimum.

As for whether or not to go, well I think everyone should try it. Some should try it right out of high school, some should take some time off to travel. Everyone's different. But the one thing that post secondary education teaches, (or at least it SHOULD) is to think critically. That is why they call it higher learning. Its completely unlike high school in every way. Its better!

Dozer · 11-06-03, 04:58 PM

In most cases... no secondary education means crappy job

Mike

lordkovacs · 11-06-03, 06:01 PM

why point out someone's spelling errors? I'm sure that makes someone feel really confident in themselves. That's just ignorant.

I think you should pursue whatever makes you happy. I personally went through University and Teacher's college because I knew that's what I wanted to do...not because I felt I had to. Sure there is a lot of pressure to attend postsecondary school, but a tradeworker for instance is a profitable and respectable position, if that's what you like. They require highschool. In fact, sadly enough, most tradeworkers make more money than I do as a teacher! So, it's incorrect to say that college = more money all the time. So I disagree with a few people above.

Cheers, and good luck!
MIKE

lordkovacs · 11-06-03, 06:03 PM

Do give those teacher's a break though!

daver676 · 11-06-03, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Turtle Matt
Maybe you should learn to spell college before you attend..Just kidding of course.
Matt

LOL! My thought EXACTLY!!

DarkHunter · 11-07-03, 04:06 AM

Well, i completed high school and I know how much pressure they put on you while your in school to look at college and University. For myself, i saw this as something i would just keep putting off....I didn't like the pressure they put on me and felt so bad about not being able to think of what i wanted to do for "the rest of my life" as they would put it. My best advice that i can give you is try to deal with the pressure and try to make the best decsion you can! I graduated last year.....And now am working full time at a pet store....And think alot about how i should have gone back to school right away, im sure people have told you "DONT TAKE A YEAR OFF" i ignored that myself, and it is really hard to even think about going back. Thats why its good to go right after high school. Anyways, i hope it helps......Maybe you could look into schooling for a really nice course like a vet type course.....that would most likly keep your intrest

And im sure theirs people on here that know more about it in your area.
~Shannon

Ps....I dont think anyone should really be commenting on spelling errors im sure you've all made them yourself, and besides that...it was at least readable

And i think for him being dislexic he did a very good job

Syst3m · 11-07-03, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lordkovacs
why point out someone's spelling errors? I'm sure that makes someone feel really confident in themselves. That's just ignorant.

I think you should pursue whatever makes you happy. I personally went through University and Teacher's college because I knew that's what I wanted to do...not because I felt I had to. Sure there is a lot of pressure to attend postsecondary school, but a tradeworker for instance is a profitable and respectable position, if that's what you like. They require highschool. In fact, sadly enough, most tradeworkers make more money than I do as a teacher! So, it's incorrect to say that college = more money all the time. So I disagree with a few people above.

Cheers, and good luck!
MIKE

As far as spelling errors go, it was just comedical that a post about someone saying they were not sure if they needed to go on to higher education was rife with spelling errors.

Second, they only way most trade workers make more then you do is if they work 10-12 hours a day 6-7 days a week and had to put in 7-10 years as in "training" to do their job.

Not to mention they don't get a summer break. Or half the holidays or benifits that a most people who teach do.

You can say the grass is always greener on the other side, at least until you see your friend get his hand ripped off by a boring mill.

Higher education, at least when applied correctly will almost always lead to a higher quality life, maybe not by pure dollars but health, and stress levels will be better then those who work their lives away to earn what someone who has a degree can make working 40 a week.

lordkovacs · 11-07-03, 10:28 AM

i'm not saying that higher education isn't wonderful. in fact, even though I'm a teacher I'm still going back to get my Master's degree. What I'm saying though, is that not everyone is suited for university or college. It's fine to pick a trade or the like.

And you CAN NOT tell me that I make more than most experienced tradesmen. My father and brother both have a trade. My father is in a union and makes close to $35/hour. He works 40 hours per week. My brother is not in a union and makes $22/hour. He puts in around 48 hours per week. As a teacher, do you think my work starts at 8:30 and ends at 3:30? hahahahah. that's funny. I work more then both my brother and father. I am not complaiing cause that's what I love, but your statement is not necessarily true. Furthermore, no one had mentioned the vacation time of a tradesman. That wasn't a factor. What was mentioned was that you needed univeristy or college to make money. That's not always true.
cheers,
MIKE