border
sSNAKESs : Reptile Forum
 

Go Back   sSNAKESs : Reptile Forum > Community Forums > General Discussion

Notices

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-15-03, 02:49 PM   #1
daver676
Member
 
daver676's Avatar
 
Join Date: May-2003
Location: Southwestern Ontario
Age: 45
Posts: 1,605
Send a message via MSN to daver676
Fecal samples

Hello.

I plan on taking some of my bp's feces for testing. How long can the feces be out of the snake before it is no longer viable for testing?

Thanks
Dave
__________________
Association of Reptilian and Amphibian Veterinarians - Worldwide Listings <-- Highly recommended.
Nutrient Composition of Whole Vertebrate Prey

A good friend will come bail you out of jail.... but a true friend will be sitting next to you saying "Damn. We ****ed up!"
daver676 is offline  
Login to remove ads
Old 10-15-03, 03:09 PM   #2
Siretsap
Member
 
Siretsap's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan-2003
Location: Montreal, Canada
Age: 44
Posts: 1,177
Put it in the fridge and try to take it withing 24 to 36 hours from when it's made.
Siretsap is offline  
Old 10-15-03, 03:11 PM   #3
Linds
Former Moderator no longer active
 
Join Date: Feb-2002
Location: Christchurch
Posts: 10,251
Country:
It depends if it is preserved in SAF solution or if it is just on its own. I'll assume your talking about on its own, but correct me if I'm wrong.

The sooner the better. Try for under 3 days. That gives you enough in case he goes right before the weekend. Store it in a plastic baggy in the refrigerator until then. Do not freeze the sample.
Linds is offline  
Old 10-15-03, 05:33 PM   #4
daver676
Member
 
daver676's Avatar
 
Join Date: May-2003
Location: Southwestern Ontario
Age: 45
Posts: 1,605
Send a message via MSN to daver676
Thanks folks!

One last question. Doesn't refrigeration kill and parasites or bacterial in the feces?
__________________
Association of Reptilian and Amphibian Veterinarians - Worldwide Listings <-- Highly recommended.
Nutrient Composition of Whole Vertebrate Prey

A good friend will come bail you out of jail.... but a true friend will be sitting next to you saying "Damn. We ****ed up!"
daver676 is offline  
Old 10-15-03, 05:40 PM   #5
anders_240sx
Member
 
anders_240sx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun-2003
Location: Shwaberry, Ontario
Posts: 169
Send a message via MSN to anders_240sx
Yeah ... but they dont need to be alive to test ...they look for remanents of the bacterium ... so dont worry
__________________
"We live in a society of laws..why did you think I took you to see those Police Academy movies?...for fun?!!, well I didnt see anybody laughing...did you?!!!"

Homer J.
anders_240sx is offline  
Login to remove ads
Old 10-15-03, 06:56 PM   #6
Linds
Former Moderator no longer active
 
Join Date: Feb-2002
Location: Christchurch
Posts: 10,251
Country:
Bacteria is not killed by refrigeration or even by freezing in many cases. They use refrigeration to preserve and even help grow cultures. Freezing will however, kill parasites and eggs, but refrigeration will help to preserve them until testing time.
Linds is offline  
Old 10-15-03, 07:19 PM   #7
Trace
Member
 
Trace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul-2002
Location: Ottawa, Canada
Posts: 1,180
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't refrigeration kill the coccidia protozoa?

When I was getting my collection of chameleons tested for that parasite, it was imperative that I DID NOT place any fecal samples in the fridge until I could run them up to my vet. I was specifically told too, once the poops got to my vet, I had to inform the techs there not to refrigerate the samples until they had a few moments to run the smear.

Food for thought.

Trace
__________________
I don't like reggae... oh no. I LOVE IT!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Member of AdCham
Trace is offline  
Old 10-16-03, 09:49 PM   #8
chas*e
Banned
 
chas*e's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan-2003
Posts: 1,033
Country:
It depends if you are doing a fecal smear or a floatation...It also depends on what you are looking for...with a floatation most parasitic oocysts(eggs) are what you find, refrigerated or not. But smears will find live bacteria and other pathogens that need relatively fresh(24-48 hr) samples.
chas*e is offline  
Old 10-16-03, 10:52 PM   #9
eyespy
Member
 
eyespy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep-2002
Posts: 2,125
Trace, refrigeration doesn't always kill coccidia but the oocyst's hard coating becomes more rigid and resistant to stains and dyes, and therefore harder to pick up in a slide. Samples less than 2 hours old that have never been refrigerated are the most accurate.

If you must refrigerate a sample, place a wet paper towel in the plastic bag to keep it from dehydrating as quickly. That will help bacteria and protozoa from going into their stasis state when confronted with cold dry conditions.
__________________
The Zombie Mama is here!

http://www.thebeardedlady.org
eyespy is offline  
Closed Thread


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:02 PM.

Powered by vBulletin®
©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2002-2023, Hobby Solutions.

right