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09-25-03, 12:33 PM
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Oxymoron rattlesnake
This is Barry’s newest snake. It is a Sistrurus, but it’s an oxymoron to call this thing a pigmy.
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www.SCReptiles.com 2.2 Crotalus adamanteus. 2.2 Crotalus h. atricaudatus. 2.2 Crotalus h. horridus. 1.1 Agkistrodon p. piscivorus. 1.1 Agkistrodon c. contortrix. 1.1 Agkistrodon c. mokasen. 1.1 Agkistrodon c. laticinctus. 1.1 Agkistrodon c. pictigaster. Agkistrodon c. phaeogaster. 1.2 Sistrurus miliarius barbouri. 1.1 Micrurus fulvius. 0.0.1 Micrurus fulvius tenere
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09-25-03, 12:40 PM
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Chuck, either that is a very short door, or you have grown about three feet since I last saw you at the Columbia show. oh yeah, very nice snake also.
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Ray
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09-25-03, 12:43 PM
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that would give Scott's pigmy a run for the money in terms of size
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09-25-03, 12:56 PM
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Location: Northeast Georgia
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Yeah, I haven't got a tape to him either. I am looking for a large female to pair him with. Me and Chuck both have to duck through the door. Think it might be a 6ft door.
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09-25-03, 03:06 PM
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Is that a Dusky?
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I planted some bird seed. A bird came up. Now I don't know what to feed it.
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09-25-03, 03:12 PM
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Location: Fort Pierce Florida
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Outstanding pigmy Barry if you were closer i would deffinately put my girl in with that monster they would make an excellant pair.
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09-25-03, 03:53 PM
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BW: Yep!
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www.SCReptiles.com 2.2 Crotalus adamanteus. 2.2 Crotalus h. atricaudatus. 2.2 Crotalus h. horridus. 1.1 Agkistrodon p. piscivorus. 1.1 Agkistrodon c. contortrix. 1.1 Agkistrodon c. mokasen. 1.1 Agkistrodon c. laticinctus. 1.1 Agkistrodon c. pictigaster. Agkistrodon c. phaeogaster. 1.2 Sistrurus miliarius barbouri. 1.1 Micrurus fulvius. 0.0.1 Micrurus fulvius tenere
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09-25-03, 03:54 PM
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Dusky het for EDB Hehe.
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09-25-03, 06:23 PM
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No doubt! I was tickled to death when I picked up a 29 inch Dusky at Hamburg a few years ago (too bad she exploded  ). It will be interesting to put a spine tape on it and get a true length. From the size of the hook, I will guess 25-29".
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I planted some bird seed. A bird came up. Now I don't know what to feed it.
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09-26-03, 07:39 AM
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Gonna try to do that sometime next week.
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09-26-03, 07:54 AM
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The most accurate way that I have found to get a good measurement is a spine line. basically it is squeezing them between glass or plexi and a soft foam. Drawing a line on the glass following their spine line and then using a string to measure it. Whit Gibbins uses a squeeze box with a glass lid. Someone suggested to me a while back taking a sofa cushion out of the upolstery and placing the snake on that and placing a piece of plexi over it. Just have to be very careful with hots using that method. Maybe some handles ont he plexi to hold on to. Basically just put the snake on there and when it starts to crawl, press gently with the plexi. This allows it to get some kinks out of it's body. My understanding is that it is about the most accurate method. Oh, and a crayon works pretty good for marking it. There is some pencil that works well too but the name slips my mind. It is like a crayon material and you peel off paper to expose more. Someone has got to know what I am talking about 
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I planted some bird seed. A bird came up. Now I don't know what to feed it.
Last edited by BWSmith; 09-26-03 at 08:03 AM..
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09-26-03, 08:11 AM
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Grease pencil is what I always heard them called. I usually tube them then use a string to trace the spine.....cut the string then put it to the tape.
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09-26-03, 08:16 AM
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Grease Pencil! That's it! It was driving me nuts.
The only problem with the tube method is that when they kink, even running the spine, it get a little innaccurate. But it is a quick way to get a rough estimate. Witht he squeeze emthod, you wait til it starts crawling and then press down, this gets out most kinks and makes it a bit more accurate. I still have to try it on that Cornsnake to see if he broke the record. For him, I want it as accurate as possible. 
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I planted some bird seed. A bird came up. Now I don't know what to feed it.
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09-26-03, 09:41 AM
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Corn?? Isn't that illegal in GA?
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09-26-03, 09:54 AM
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I have permits for native nonvenomous.
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