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09-18-03, 04:30 PM
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Something you all might be interested in knowing
this is a link i came across from another message board I figure its worth posting please read the info is sad things like this still happen especialy in a company thats business regards the health of animals www.iamscruelty.com
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09-18-03, 04:34 PM
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I wonder what the Iams spokesman will say at the pet show next weekend
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09-18-03, 05:12 PM
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Super Genius
Join Date: Nov-2002
Location: Southwestern Ontario
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The link won't open. Is it just me?
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09-18-03, 05:21 PM
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didn't work for me either, mykee
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09-18-03, 05:22 PM
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me either.
Broken link
Marisa
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09-18-03, 05:44 PM
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well its official, its not working 
But you got my curiosity up and I did a search and found this....
http://www.uncaged.co.uk/iamsexpress.htm
Im hoping that this is what youre refering to 
Oh I also found another site with the same exact article with this as a header.
"This article appeared in the Sunday Express, 27 May 2001."
Id like to think that they have changed thier ways, but.... well Id like to do alot of things that I cant.
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09-18-03, 07:12 PM
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that article is mean!!!
i cant beleve a company that makes DOG food would do someting so crewl the the anamal they are catering to.
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Id like to think that they have changed thier ways, but.... well Id like to do alot of things that I cant.
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...Me to. me to
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09-18-03, 07:43 PM
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Can I cut the scientists stomach open and see how his liver is doing? might take me awhile to find it though since im not a doctor oh well more stuff too look at right?
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09-18-03, 07:46 PM
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09-18-03, 07:59 PM
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Hmmm, I'll take the side that there are bipolar sides to this topic.
1: Yes, it is very inhumane to disect any living organism without its consent.
2: 99% of people fail to realize that the only reason dogs are so domesticated and so wide ranging is because they were bred by our ancestors for food. Well, primarily food, plus protection and hunting aids. As any dog owner knows, they will try to reproduce with anything that moves. This is why our ancesors chose this animal, because they reproduce fast and can supply them with so many services.
3: an extention of 2, had the Nazis not experimented with the Jews in the World War, we would be nowhere near how medically advanced we are today. Things DO have to suffer in order for knowledge to be gained. It is for the greater good. People just don't want to accept the truth, that's why religions exist.
I do not support this, and I'm not against it, these are simply some logical points.
-Brock
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09-18-03, 08:18 PM
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sure testing needs to be done but they are debarking dogs and keeping them inhumanly that is another story
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09-18-03, 08:50 PM
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They're not going to waste resources on something that is destined to die. It makes no business sense. Iams is a business.
-Brock
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09-18-03, 09:56 PM
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I agree and I disagree. As long as the animals in question are being kept in a clean sterile enviroment, in a cagle suitable for their size, then I'm glad they are doing the research to keep my pets healthy. But on the other hand if they are filthy, live in their own waste, don't wear gloves, REuse needles, scaples etc......etc......then I would gladly stop purchasing IAMS. Sometimes something or someone has to suffer to help someone else (or something else). And I agree with that to Brock, they are not going to waste money on something that is going to die......that is a waste of their money.
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09-19-03, 05:47 AM
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how about leaving open wounds from surgary not even taking the time to close them up having them lie on a paint chiped concreat floor till there are scares formed. They keeping them in unenviromently controled suroundings to swelter in the summer and shiver in the winter, never having any interaction with anonther human or dog in there lives, even observed and documented an open wounded animal with a huge laseration on its side till it smelled and pussed till the animals die... I don't know about you but that doesnt sound to nessisary to find out if the dog food is good for them. I bet they dont rip chunks out of humans legs to see if your cerial is good for you. Why dont they just to nutritional anylisis or even study on animals but get volenters and study the peice of mucel take your sample or whatever then properly stich the animal back up and send it home for recovery.... Sure testing is needed but come on they would never do these things to human for human food they dont need to do it to dogs or any other animals.
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09-19-03, 08:23 AM
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Seen that before, rumour has that iams has cleaned up their ways, but i doubt it. I've also heard about purina doing similar practices.
Vote with your $, don't buy that brand.
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