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08-15-03, 12:53 AM
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Location: West Kootenays BC Canada
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Anyone Know?
Came across this little fella while out fishing in the Columbia River in Trail BC Canada. It's about a foot long and spent most of it's time along the bottom chasing minnows. When we caught him, he started striking out and biting the net. We snapped a few pics because we didn't know what type of snake it was or if it was venomous. He did chase after us when we let him go, away from where we were fishing. Anyone know what it is or if it is in fact venomous? Thanks
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08-15-03, 01:31 AM
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Nonvenomous, northwestern garter is possible, need a better pic or more description.
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08-15-03, 08:57 AM
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resized pic
Here is a resized pic of the previous. It doesn't look like our garter snakes around here. This particular snake is a reddish brown and has a orange-red strip on the back of it's head. I've seen a lot of snakes in this area before, and this is the first one I've seen like this. Just thought it was odd and wanted to know what it was. Not a huge pressing concern on what it is, just curiousity. LOL Thanks again. 
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08-15-03, 09:03 AM
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looks like a checkered to me.
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08-15-03, 09:06 AM
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nevermind, i dont think there are checkered in canada.
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08-15-03, 10:16 AM
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I would definitely say Checkered Garter, based on the picture... but the northernmost point that I could find on the net that these would be indigenous to is California. I suppose it's not entirely unlikely that they could make it as far as the BC Kootenays, but I wouldn't bank on it....
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08-15-03, 10:31 AM
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It could be that somebody released or lost a former pet, though. Does look way more like a checkered than anything.
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08-15-03, 12:26 PM
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Looks like a wandering or a western plains garter. those are the only similar snakes i could find native to that area.
Personally I would go with the wandering garter
Jason
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08-15-03, 12:30 PM
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I think it's a checkered as well...but, I could be wrong.
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08-15-03, 01:08 PM
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Common garters are also on occasion patterned very simalar to that as well.
I think that it is safe to rule out the checkered considering that it is a little outside of its home range. lol
Jason
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08-15-03, 02:20 PM
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Thanks so much for the info everyone. At least now I can do a better search online more specific to my area. I have some idea on where to start looking now. Everyone has been so helpful. Anymore ideas would be great. Again, Thank you.
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08-15-03, 05:46 PM
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The second pic is much more help. Northwestern Garters are described as Brown, greenish, bluish, or black. Distinct red, orange, or yellow stripe down middle of back. May not have side stripes on 2nd or 3rd scale rows. Dark spotted sides. Belly yellow or grey, often with red sptoches. Audubon Field Guide
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08-20-03, 08:08 PM
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its definatly a garter looks like a checkerd black neck to me
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