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08-11-03, 02:25 PM
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Join Date: May-2003
Age: 44
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Just An Idea
Okay as some of you know I am looking at getting into hots.
Now here is my idea, for my first snake get a venomoid, I know I know I'm not a fan either but hear me out. For my first "hot" I get a venomoid and treat it like a hot so I some experiance with thier care before I actually get a hot. YES/NO?
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08-11-03, 02:27 PM
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Join Date: Oct-2002
Location: Georgia (USA)
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It is not the same because as much as you think you will treat it like a hot, you won't because in theback of your mind you know it is a void.
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08-11-03, 02:31 PM
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Join Date: Apr-2003
Location: Vancouver, BC
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I agree with BWSmith. If you have a freind with hots, see if maybe you can sit in on a feeding/cleaning session? Just a thought. Good luck!
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08-11-03, 02:32 PM
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Join Date: Nov-2002
Location: Chicago
Age: 56
Posts: 366
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WOW did you get off easy on that one!!! There is no excuse to get a void. There are no shortcuts to keeping hots. Buy buying a void you support butchering a beautiful animal.
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08-11-03, 02:38 PM
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Join Date: Jun-2003
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Age: 52
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Well, there is nothing that can prepare you for a cobra, except a cobra. Nothing moves like them with that strength, speed, and agility; however, in following a reasonable progression you can prepare yourself with other snakes. No one should start with a cobra. If I were you, I would get a nice collected (large) yellow belly water snake. They look, act, and move like a pit viper. Work it until you are completely comfortable and then get a pigmy rattlesnakes. Work is until you are completely comfortable and then get a copperhead. After you are comfortable with the copper, you should be ready for true rattlers and cottons. They will prepare you for large vipers like gaboons. After you have achieved that level and you want to move to cobras, getting a venomoid may be an option, but it not a good starting point. The best way to learn is with an experienced keeper, but if you do not have that option, take your time and follow this progression. You will also want to read Allen Hunters Venom 101. I have it in PDF format that I can email to you if you have an account that will transfer a file that big. Its 2 megs I think. Most people on this site are void-haters, so you may catch some heat for asking about them. Good luck.
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08-11-03, 02:42 PM
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Join Date: Jul-2003
Location: Somewhere in Kentucky
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Start slow, dude....As Chuck said, only a cobra acts like a cobra...
Good luck just the same...
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08-11-03, 02:47 PM
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Join Date: Jun-2003
Location: Northeast Georgia
Age: 43
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I think it is best to apprentice with some one. I still cant hook my collected red belly water. Personally, I wouldn't want to take a hit off a venomoid either. I've never seen a venomoid that I know of but I hear the fangs are still there.
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Last edited by fatboy; 08-11-03 at 03:05 PM..
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08-11-03, 03:11 PM
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Join Date: Oct-2002
Location: Georgia (USA)
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I still cant hook my collected red belly water
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And you have a Timber? 
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08-11-03, 03:18 PM
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Join Date: Jun-2003
Location: Chattanooga, TN
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Keeps the timber at our place and we work it together.
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www.SCReptiles.com 2.2 Crotalus adamanteus. 2.2 Crotalus h. atricaudatus. 2.2 Crotalus h. horridus. 1.1 Agkistrodon p. piscivorus. 1.1 Agkistrodon c. contortrix. 1.1 Agkistrodon c. mokasen. 1.1 Agkistrodon c. laticinctus. 1.1 Agkistrodon c. pictigaster. Agkistrodon c. phaeogaster. 1.2 Sistrurus miliarius barbouri. 1.1 Micrurus fulvius. 0.0.1 Micrurus fulvius tenere
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08-11-03, 03:19 PM
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Join Date: Oct-2002
Location: Georgia (USA)
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ahhhhh.
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I planted some bird seed. A bird came up. Now I don't know what to feed it.
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08-11-03, 03:22 PM
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Join Date: Jun-2003
Location: Chattanooga, TN
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I sent the water home with him to practice. And now he is getting a pigmy…so forth, so on and like that. =)
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www.SCReptiles.com 2.2 Crotalus adamanteus. 2.2 Crotalus h. atricaudatus. 2.2 Crotalus h. horridus. 1.1 Agkistrodon p. piscivorus. 1.1 Agkistrodon c. contortrix. 1.1 Agkistrodon c. mokasen. 1.1 Agkistrodon c. laticinctus. 1.1 Agkistrodon c. pictigaster. Agkistrodon c. phaeogaster. 1.2 Sistrurus miliarius barbouri. 1.1 Micrurus fulvius. 0.0.1 Micrurus fulvius tenere
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08-11-03, 03:22 PM
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Join Date: Jun-2003
Location: Northeast Georgia
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Calm down wee man. I can tail the red belly but cannot double hook him. I wanna see anyone that can double hook him 
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08-11-03, 03:24 PM
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Join Date: Jul-2003
Location: Somewhere in Kentucky
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Hmmmm...Double hook a red bellied water??? I'll try!! May look like an idiot doing but I'll try!
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08-11-03, 03:26 PM
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Join Date: Jun-2003
Location: Northeast Georgia
Age: 43
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Yeah, mine has a history of clowning people. I'll tell you the story off of here.
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08-11-03, 03:48 PM
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Join Date: Nov-2002
Location: Fort Pierce Florida
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I will be have and only say if your not 100% ready for a hot dont get one,I have said this too hundreds of people get a Coachwhip. Write down on a piece of paper """ I could have died just now """" date it , time it and after 6 months see how many times you would be dead. and then sit down and think hard about it , if you still want to get one then get a HOT not a void, please do not contribute to these butchers
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