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Old 07-29-03, 07:13 PM   #1
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Smile Finally!!! Baby Indian Sand Boas...(pics)

Below is a picture of my gravid female Eryx Johnii (Indian Sand boa)taken about a week ago.
Rarely have I seen gravid snakes look this big!

And today she finally got relief from that huge swelling and gave me these 4 huge
perfect babies.
They are pictured here, in a little bit of water to aid them in cleaning up the birth remains and to keep
the umbilicus moist and clean while the last yolk is absorbed

Below is a close-up. Note they are banded black and orange and don't look much like their
mother, who incidentally wasn't happy about me taking her babies.
She appeared to be protecting them as they stayed right next to her and she struck
at me repeatedly every time my hand entered the cage, which is quite out of character for
Johnii which are the tamest of all the Sand boas.
This is the very first time I have bred this species. It always feels fantastic to breed
something new.

thanks for your interest
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Old 07-29-03, 08:19 PM   #2
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Great job Roy! They are awsome! How long does it take them to get their adult colours?
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Congrats!

I wish Johnii's were bred more often!

P.S. What are you going to be asking?
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How cool is that! Congrats Sir. Job well done. Anyone else working with those up here?
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If you'll be selling the babies, PM me with a price. I may be interested as well.
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Awesome Roy, congrats!!
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Old 07-29-03, 11:23 PM   #7
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Thanks ! Sean, most nominate Eryx johnii johnii will have lost most of their banding by their second birthday, but it varies greatly with the bloodline, and the geographic origin of the founder stock. While the orange becomes brown in many,the bands remain on the tail for years, in some.
I have some of Rick Staub's " Sunset Johnii" which have been selectively bred to remain orange right into adulthood. They are really quite fantastic and even have a lot of orange on their bellies.

Trevor, I'm not aware of anyone else in Canada currently breeding Johnii. There might be a few around but not many. With litters so small there
will be a shortage of CB stock for years to come.
They are really a very nice species, but rare in collections. Some people find the brown unicolor adults a tad boring, but they are the tamest of all the Sand boas and also the biggest,some reaching 4 foot.They are trouble free feeders, very hardy, and they feel like satin, because of the small smooth scales. They remind me of giant Rubber boas.
There is still much selective breeding work that can be done with Johnii. I will continue with trying to increase the orange content by using my Staub males to sire future offspring from normal females, as well as my Staub females.. This should result
in neonates that will be brighter orange and they should hold that color. I feel the quality of the color and longevity of it, can greatly be improved through more selective breeding. This has already been proven by Rick Staub's work, as seen here.
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Old 07-29-03, 11:26 PM   #8
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Incredible babies man, may you have many more! =P
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That's awesome! Congrats!
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As I have said before and will say again.
WOW!

Oh I'm begging, groveling, send me one!
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