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07-27-03, 09:14 PM
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!@#$%^ Up $#!t!! Cannibals?!?!
OMG! I just came downstairs to see my my sandfire yellow x red/gold bearie being eating by his partner! This is absolutely unheard of! I cannot believe this! They were relatively the same size, I am sorry I just cannot believe this. Killing eachother, yes, being aggressive, yes. This I don't even understand. They were hardely of age to start being aggressive to eachother should they be of the same sex. That is another thing, absolutely no prior aggression had occurred. If so I would have separated immediately. Anyhow when I came down the full tail and rear legs were hanging out. I didn't know what to do, fearing the other would choke on the one it was eating I gently pulled it out of his mouth. He now looks bloted and seems jumpy compared to his normal self. The other, dead. I guess I am just absolutely stunned, or shocked. Or both. I have truly never heard of this. I guess I just want to see what you guys think. Anything that could possibly go wrong with the one who was trying to eat the other?
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07-27-03, 09:18 PM
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Join Date: May-2002
Location: Cambridge, Ontario
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Holy !@#$% I have never heard of any thing like that !!!!!
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07-27-03, 09:20 PM
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Join Date: Feb-2003
Location: T.O.
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I once made the mistake of saying to myslf "Well ill get crix tommorow"
the next day when i got home with the crix, one of the babies was missing an arm.
So what Im gettin at is that maybe you werent feeding them enough??
But Actually eating the cage mate, Ive never heard of that, He must have been Really Hungry.
-Reptilez
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07-27-03, 09:22 PM
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That's really really strange...
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07-27-03, 09:24 PM
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No man. They were both eating like champs, making me go broke. They both ate 13 silk worms today. I don't think they were hungry. Missing an arm is much different then eating. That could have been due to aggression...
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07-27-03, 09:26 PM
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so the one that was being eatin Survived??
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07-27-03, 09:27 PM
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No, he died 
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07-27-03, 09:31 PM
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Join Date: Jun-2003
Location: North Carolina
Age: 38
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That is so HORRIBLE! How old were these dragons? How big? In order for the one dragon to get the other dragon in his mouth, it must have been quite a bit smaller! I am so sorry that you had to see this, that is so so so sad!
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07-27-03, 09:43 PM
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No, they were nearly the same size! That is why I am shocked. For the size I have the breeder as proof but because I do not have their permission i will not say any names. They were only 7 weeks old, not very big and never showed any signs of aggression. Again I cannot stress this enough, THEY WAS A VERY LITTLE SIZE DIFFERENCE! Between this and the many other factors, I am truly shocked.
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07-27-03, 10:09 PM
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Join Date: Aug-2002
Location: hamilton, ontario, canada
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that is crazy... had many reptiles over the years, and never heard of that. I did have a whites tree frog take a little nibble of my gold dust day gecko's tail. that's it though. crazy.
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07-27-03, 10:36 PM
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Join Date: Jun-2003
Location: North Carolina
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I've never heard of this happening either! Wow... I'm shocked!
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Reptiles:
1.0 Elaphe Guttata Guttata (Chase)
0.0.1 Columbian Red-tail Boa (Pierre)
1.0 Pogona Vitticeps (Chester)
and my cat, Buddha!
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07-27-03, 11:11 PM
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Join Date: Jul-2003
Location: BC
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Sorry to hear that, it must have been a shock. I've heard of mutilations (eating toes, tails, arms) but never out and out cannibalism. I looked through one of my books and it said cannibalism is very rare and usually only happens when one dragon is significantly larger than the other. This doesn't seem to be the case, neither does lack of food. The only other thing I can think of is if it was a small enclosure and they had a super duper territory dispute. This book also said that mutiliations were most common in juveniles (two to four months old) and that higher than normal temps sometimes seemed to increase aggression. I've never heard of that before but who knows? Anyway, I hope this helps.
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07-27-03, 11:58 PM
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Very interesting, thanks for that info. I do not believe it was too small, a 20 gallon for two 7 week olds. The beardies were in no way of a significant size difference, I am so confused...
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07-28-03, 12:35 AM
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Join Date: Mar-2003
Location: Etobicoke
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We were very sorry to hear about your baby. We have never seen that type of aggression before with our babies or with any of our breeders.
The two babies you had from us were almost exactly the same size when you purchased them....
We would like to offer you another Dragon....I know that it will not replace the one that you lost, but we hope that a new, active and entertaining little guy will help.
As soon as you have a new (separate) enclosure set up.....please come see us and pick a new baby from any of our available clutches.
Also, if you would like us to have a look at your set up to make sure it is suitable we could arrange this anytime. We are always here to help with any of your questions and provide you with any information that you need.
Look forward to speaking with you soon. Once again, we are sorry that you had to go through this.
ICULIZARD
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07-28-03, 04:03 AM
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Join Date: Jun-2003
Location: North Carolina
Age: 38
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Wow! You are one GREAT breeder! I am very impressed... I saw your site too and your dragons are amazing! Too bad you aren't in the U.S. or I'd be knockin on your door just to stare at your dragons, LOL!
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~Haley~
Reptiles:
1.0 Elaphe Guttata Guttata (Chase)
0.0.1 Columbian Red-tail Boa (Pierre)
1.0 Pogona Vitticeps (Chester)
and my cat, Buddha!
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