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07-26-03, 09:20 AM
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told you the eggs were coming about once a month
and yet again i have ggs on the way - i awoke to find my dwarf digging the the perfect laying area 
so many eggs ... so little time
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07-26-03, 10:12 AM
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Location: Calgary, AB
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I was surprised how short the turnaround time was for the females. I've never heard of another sp of cham producing clutches at those intervals. The nice part about it was the ridiculously short deposition time. The record time on one end was a verrucosus female that took 48 hrs to complete a nest, and the cephalolepis females would dig, drop, and cover in less than 45 minutes!
Are yours laying fertile clutches from retained sperm, or are they dropping duds now?
WM
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07-26-03, 11:20 AM
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and where did u get ur drawf chameleon????
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07-26-03, 03:24 PM
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Location: California
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Jason-
You really need to try and hatch the eggs to see if they are fertile or not. Since you live so close to Trace may be Trace can incubate them for you or at least help you set things up to incubate if you have not done so already, I know you said the first clutch you lost. Good Luck!
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07-26-03, 03:44 PM
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Actually, fertility is easy to determine using a small flashlight. Without touching the eggs, you can shine the light from an angle and see whether or not there is any development occurring. The duds appear transluscent yellow while the fertile ones have a fine network of blood vessels visible through the shell.
Most of my ceph eggs that weren't fertile continued to grow in size without rot or mold common to other sp of cham eggs.
WM
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07-26-03, 06:44 PM
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Incubate them for a week or two before candling though, as some may be yellow if you candle them at first, but then they may turn pink. Had this happen with a leo egg of mine, took 4 or 5 days to turn pink. What I'm saying is don't immediately throw them out if you candle them and they are yellow.
-Brock
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07-26-03, 06:53 PM
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I'm going to speak for Jason temporarily here... Sorry Jason, I know you are at work.
WM: The female that is digging right now is his second female, not the one that deposited eggs on July 10th so it's not quite the turnaround that you are thinking. As far as I know, this is the same female that laid the clutch of infertile eggs a month or two ago though. I'm old and forgetful most days, so the dates of that clutch escape me at the moment! :/ So to me, this clutch will be more duds again, but worth incubating anyways.
John: Yes, I will be extracting the eggs from his enclosure as soon as she is finished laying them and incubating them at my house, so everyone keep your fingers crossed for Jason.
As for the clutch of 5 eggs I'm already incubating for Jason... 3 don't look fertile at all (as I originally expected), but the 2 remaining ones aren't bad yet, still glowing yellow when I candle them, which isn't a good sign to me either, but they haven't collapsed or gone moldy either, so I won't give up hope.
And back to Jason!
Trace
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07-26-03, 06:54 PM
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they probably arent fertile .. but i am giving the eggs to trace and let her have a shot at them .. she is much more experianced than me... as for the clutch of eggs trace has right now, they arent any good i dont think
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07-26-03, 07:11 PM
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Jason-
Well that is bad news, if I were you Jason I would be so pissed off if the breeder sold me gravid females and the eggs are no good. People pay more for gravid females. On another note my Ambilobe is on her second clutch and this one is from retained sperm. She is due to lay with in the next week I would say, the eggs are popping out of her sides. Trace do you need a tissue no crying! LOL I was looking into SITES for Canada and found the web site, I think I book marked it, I will take a better look after the eggs hatch. I was looking for info on shipping silkworms from US to Canada.
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07-26-03, 07:21 PM
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She is due to lay with in the next week I would say, the eggs are popping out of her sides. Trace do you need a tissue no crying!
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YES I DO NEED A TISSUE!!!!  That's awesome John... I do offer my congratulations to you again. But yes, I would be interested in obtaining a few of your babies when they hatch, this is of course, if I haven't already kidnapped those clutches! You have been warned about that previously! LOL! I will look into obtaining the paperwork on my end too.
Good luck to both Jason and John on all of these future babies!
Trace
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07-26-03, 07:51 PM
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Ya good luck i got my figures crossed
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07-27-03, 11:34 AM
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i dunno if she laid yet ... she went down, but was up about 3 hours later ... so i dont know if she laid, or is going to make another trip down
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07-27-03, 11:37 AM
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ah - lol .. didnt even read your post talking for me trace ... sorry LOL!
thanks tho .. and yeah .. whatever she said is true
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07-27-03, 01:06 PM
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GOOD NEWS!
she redug a hole, and is back laying .. no more wrries about eggboundness
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07-27-03, 01:07 PM
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