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06-05-03, 01:34 AM
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baby beardie behaviors???
ok, what happened?
when i brought my beardie home she would wave. the book said this was normal....meaning" im a bearded dragon / please dont eat me"... which i thought ( for some reason) was hiliarious
now, she? him? it? doesnt do that anymore ...and neither is there head bobbing.
now as far as health goes........great eater, growing big......but wont give veggies a second thought and her body minus tail is almost as long as my hand....
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06-05-03, 01:40 AM
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and here is photo that i tried to post but didnt werk....Figments baby pics 
http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/raebug200...c=ph%26.view=t
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06-05-03, 06:56 AM
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It's actually good if she isn't waving, that means she no longer thinks of you as a potential predator. Her stress level is decreasing, which means that her health and hardiness will increase.
I'm afraid I still can't see your pic, I think you posted the link to your own Yahoo member's area rather than the public link to the pic. I don't have any pics at Yahoo but I hope somebody can tell you where to find the right URL to post. I'd love to see her. I chose not to breed my beardies this season and now I'm missing all those babies around the house. Not missing the cricket bill, though!
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06-05-03, 02:27 PM
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06-11-03, 10:31 PM
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Eyespy: Dragons wave for a number of reasons. Not just because they are feeling threatened or under stress. And also, just because a dragon waves doesn't mean it's a female. I had my 3 month old wave and turns out it was a male. So waving means nothing until the dragon is older. If a dragon waves, it could be excited, wanting to come out, etc etc.. there are many reasons for a dragon wave.
When my male, Chester, wants to come out of his cage he'll go up to the glass and wave at me or head bob. No, I'm not talking pressing his claws up against the glass, I'm talking an actual ''dragon wave''. So yeah. :P
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06-11-03, 10:36 PM
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I've found that dragons often wave as a sign of submission. When a male and a female are together, the female generally will. However, when my little guy (not girl) was hanging around two older dragons, he started waving too.
DS - Maybe he sees something that he thinks is another creature?
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06-11-03, 10:55 PM
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i dont know........ sometimes i think she does it when she ? him? it? is hunting....she looks at the cricket andtilts her head a liittle then one arm comes up ( ima bearded dragon) then the other arm ( ima gonna eat eat you ) CHOMP!!
I GET SUCH A KICK OUT OF HER!!!! I LOVE MY BD FIGMENT!
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06-11-03, 11:18 PM
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Waving always equals stress, submission and "please don't eat me" are stress responses, and mating pressure produces stress in a female. The less a dragon waves, the less stress it has. Dragons who wave alot have significantly more cortisol in their systems, which is the hormone produced when under stress.
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Last edited by eyespy; 06-11-03 at 11:28 PM..
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06-12-03, 12:15 AM
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Although waving may equal stress in SOME situations, just because the dragon waves a few times doesn't mean it's stressed out. It might be that the dragon knows the seasons are changing and it's getting to the breeding age? I don't know about this particular dragon but that could also be a possibility.
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06-12-03, 06:34 AM
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NOW SHE ISNT EVEN 3 MONTHS OLD YET...DEFINATELY NOT OLD OLD ENOUGH TO BREED....
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06-12-03, 06:52 AM
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Captivity equals stress, Dragon Slave. I've never yet seen a bearded dragon that didn't have higher cortisol levels than the wild population.
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06-12-03, 08:52 AM
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i'm sorry i agree with eyespy on this one. the many books i have read and other people i talk to. Say basicly the same thing that it is stress related or a sign of submission. I useually see arm waving when my 2 beardies are running around and butting each other with thier heads. LOL funny to watch (they don't hurt each other i think its playing) or when they go into breeding the female will bob her head and the male will wave his arm. Any other time it is the other way around.
Also when we first brought them home over 2 years ago the first month was arm waving daily. Then a few weeks go by and it gets less and less. I belive it was from stress of a new enclosure. then about a month after that we had bought them a bigger cage and for the first few weeks their was arm waving again until they got used to thier new home. I'm not an expert on beardies i only have 2 but i have done alot of studing on them and what i have learned is that armwaving is from stress or being submissive to another cagemate. Just my thoughts and you don't have to agree with me.
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06-12-03, 09:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by eyespy
Captivity equals stress, Dragon Slave. I've never yet seen a bearded dragon that didn't have higher cortisol levels than the wild population.
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Did I ever say anything about being in the wild? Of course dragons would be under more stress in captivity, but I'm sure they wave in the wild also. OK, I agree that it is used under stress but that is not the ONLY explination for it.
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Reptiles:
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0.0.1 Columbian Red-tail Boa (Pierre)
1.0 Pogona Vitticeps (Chester)
and my cat, Buddha!
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06-14-03, 06:41 PM
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man dragon slave and eyespy seems like u guys get into on every discussion. lol o well that is good and lets us know how many explanations there is out ther for the health of beardies. i just got my first one today and he or she is lovely and hasn't tried to bite me yet now my rtb's that is different they will let u know if they want to be held.
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06-14-03, 07:17 PM
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I just wanna say this: i bet the both of you have alot of experience with bearded dragons and i reallly enjoy this discussion. Thats really all i want too say  . Whatever you guys say, there is something in there were new bearded owners (like me) learn from. So i just wanna thank you THNXS
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