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05-02-03, 09:14 AM
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spotted bush snake>>
Anyone has or had experience with spotted bush snakes (Philothamnus semivariegatus)?
I don't know why this link has broke...anyway, hit the camera tab beside my nickname (my gallery)
Cheers~Greg~
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05-02-03, 03:14 PM
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here's the photo
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05-02-03, 03:20 PM
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"Spotted Bush Snake"? LOL.. That sounds itchy!
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05-02-03, 03:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by BAZ
"Spotted Bush Snake"? LOL.. That sounds itchy!
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lol, thats just wrong But funny!
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05-02-03, 06:32 PM
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...sorry but that's what i have found under Philothamnus semivariegatus. Which is it's common name?
~Greg~
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05-02-03, 06:58 PM
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That is the correct name, Greg, they are just messing with you and each other. I don't have experience with them, but I do know they are nonvenomous and are lizard and frog eaters.
Good luck with it!
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05-02-03, 07:03 PM
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Thanks LdyDrgn. That info is known by me too. But i wonder if i can switch them (i am planning on having a pair) to rodents. I must rub frogs to mice or mice to frog. I forgot that method
~Greg~
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05-02-03, 07:06 PM
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You may be able to get them to switch, but it may not be the healthiest thing for them. Certain snakes have certain diets and it is best to stick to that diet. King cobras can live on rodents as well, but they are genetically disposed to eat other snakes.... so a diet of snakes would be healthiest. Make sense?
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05-02-03, 07:16 PM
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I don't believe that switching to rodents will be that different and therefor they could have a health problem. Frog is meat, mouse is meat. After all who have noticed that we all drink milk from cows that don't eat grass but commercial junk (they call eat food). Doctor's still claim that milk is a food with top superiority in our diet. I believe that makes more sense
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05-02-03, 07:32 PM
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They are now finding out that cow's milk really isn't all that good for us. The Dairy Council still pushes it, though. I won't give it up, however, I love milk hehehe.
I hope switching them over won't be a health problem. Again, good luck.
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05-02-03, 07:40 PM
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Of course milk don't tastes the same like when cows ate grass (back at the old forgotten years) and of course don't have the same quality but years upon years babies grow up drinking milk from cows eating junk. Well as i look myself (if you exclude a few hair loss on my 34 ..lol) i am in a very good shape. And i love milk too
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05-02-03, 08:47 PM
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just because both are meat doesn't mean that they're the same. one may be higher in nessessary vitamins and minerals that the other is lacking. look at chicken and beef, both are meat but beef is higher in iron.
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05-02-03, 09:01 PM
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I think the differncies are negligible to mention. I'll compare the two different meats and i'll add what it wants with a syringe ...
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05-03-03, 03:11 AM
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I think a safe way to go would be to feed reptilian prey supplemented with rodents. Rodents are more nutritious but there is also such a thing as being over-nutritious in the long run. The primary reason for most to not recommend rodents to non-rodent feeders is becos of the high fat content in rats and mice which may contribute to fatty liver disease. This is an ongoing debate however and one which probably will take a long time to resolve, until we have more proof.
I'd say go with what you feel is right but just monitor your snake closely for sign of ill health and obesity. There's pros and cons to both sides. Reptilian prey can also pass on more pathogens to your snake. Blah blah blah. And the list goes on. Anyways, time for me to bed. Wish you best of luck with your Philothamnus. Nice snakes! I'm hoping to get some in this month!
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05-03-03, 07:28 PM
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Yeap Vanan, i've heard about that and i think it's true. I will give my Philothamnus less than ordinary (say every 10 days-it's about 8 months old) rodent meals to avoid obesity and fatty liver. Thanks!
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