tell me you security tips...

[Steeve B]

every body at my shop must where sleeve and glove to handle monitors and pythons, we also obay to a strict protocol.
maybe some of you guys can help us improve.

[Beejay]

<grin> Okay

Bj

[Steeve B]

What kind of reply is this, why don’t you ask or say something pertinent like, why who’d you use these Steeve, what’s the benefits, dos it really help?
We routinely handle 20 adult sebas and suluwaisi retics, none of them bites, don’t you think we may know something .

[Jezabel]

Are you also wearing this equipement or is it only to protect your visitor? Does it has something to do with insurance? Like if someone get bitten by your croc minotor and want to sue you... I don't need this kind of equipement for now but, to handle a rock python, I think I'ld wear goggles also

[ReptiZone]

well you look well protected, but I dot use gloves for the animals sake it would by cool if you took the time to learn how to use a python hook that way you could show the rest of the staff how and the animal runs no risk of loosing any teeth in your gloves but it looks like a verry preety seba

[Katt]

I have to say, I love those gloves! Where did you get them?

[Steeve B]

Retics and sebas are not the easiest snakes to handle with hooks, but we do use the hooks every day, having employees working full time with these animals we must have some protection. We noticed when these snakes where handled freely with minimum restriction none of them hade aggressive behaviour, after 2 years of handling they probably don’t need the gloves but if an accident do happen they will prevent damage, as even the biggest snake will not slash true these cuffs, not to mention all the monitor claws.

as for my 8 adult croc monitors aim the only one working with them.

[Burmies]

There is reallt no need for the long gloves. If you are so scared of holding it then you should not have it.

Burmies

[norman]

Burmies- try handleing any large lizard with a short sleave shirt and nothing else. It is not beeing scared in my opinion...It is having respect for the claws of such an animal. They do not always mean to inflict pain by clutching on to your arm or shoulder, but Monitors and Iguanas and lots of other lizards have VERY sharp claws, sharp enough to dig into a tree to climb it.
I think the gloves are a wise precaution for the everyday handling of the animals that go through Steeve's care.
As for snakes, everyone has their own opinion about the use of gloves, I think in circumstances such as this it is a very good choice to use them.
But everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I dont actually use gloves, but I always wear a Long sleeved hoodie when handling anything larger than aprox 15 inches that has claws.
Sorry for rambling, and feel free to disagree. Always interested in hearing others opinions.

[Steeve B]

its very diferent to work with many then a few, especialy whene many workers are involved, I did recieve a slashing bit on palm of my hand severing tendoms and ligament, just likt a machety whod do, sergery and therapy ensuing but this dosent afect my feelings about handling these animals in no way, aim only more informed then you are.

[BurmBaroness]

OK, I can see it with the monitors, but not the snakes. I agree with Chondro on the gloves possibly pulling teeth. Also, I always wash my hands well between handling any of my animals, and I would wonder that the gloves and sleeves would be just another way to transmit germs from an animal that may be sick and not exhibiting symptoms yet, or just the different species' own natural bacteria that are OK for it but not for another species. Just my .02

[Steeve B]

may I ask if any of you guys even keep suluwesi retics and Seba
I want to know if you do, because if you guys consider them like burmies then I asure you they are very far from these easy to handle snakes. I have a very naive friend hoe tryed to grasp a 16 foot Seba thinking it wasent any different then his burm. he needed many stitches. and whats the story about teeth I realy dont get this, I simply have never seen any of my snakes loos teeth this way

[ReptiZone]

Well if the snake bites your hand on the flesh lets say, and you pull away from his teeth, you risk pulling out teeth. So, if your wearing gloves and the snake bites the gloves and the snake tries to remove itself and the teeth stay stuck in the gloves..they are still gonna pull and that leads to them pulling out some teeth. Now, because you were wearing gloves and the several different bacterias that are related to normal working gloves (or whatever gloves your company uses) finds its way into the wounds that were created after the teeth were pulled out. This leads to mouth rot and other related diseases. As for your question, i have worked with retics, rock pythons and anacondas. I agree that theyre nothing at all like burms but i said it many times before, it is not a question of ''can I (you) handle a large snake?'' it is '' What is the proper procedures to follow?'' I have worked with large white throat monitors, nile monitors, and crocodile monitors and ive done it all with just a t-shirt and thats it.

All im saying is there is a way to handle any animal safely without gloves that could injure them. For example, hooks(snake), different methods(monitors), ropes,burlap and ducktape(crocodilians) ect.

[Steeve B]

That’s exactly the reason for this tread to find better ways, pleas tell me a better way to handle full grown and medium sebas, obviously you have the experience show me!

All I have seen so far is peoples that can’t handle these because they are too nasty, others trying to restrain them and the snakes ended up dislocated, others being bitten badly, and an occasional docile specimen.

Aim very open to good tips, unfortunately I think on this tread some have given unfounded advising, I don’t think comparing any of my sebas to other snake species and telling me I shod not where gloves because they can damage there teeth is sound advice. In years of working with snakes the only broken tooth IV seen was on prey, tongs and hooks. If you really think what your telling me is good then show me! Aim not asking about the crocs or anything just Seba, to me they are my only concern the rest is child play.

[Steeve B]

Oh by the way a slashing bite is when a snake lounges at you bite and pulls back to its initial position, it doesn’t bite and cling on to you, it happens in a flash and you’re left with open wounds. And in my case it’s the same as if you who’d of hit me with a machete, I will show you guy’s next herp show