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10-26-16, 10:27 AM
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A little embarrassed to admit
To error is human right? I must have pushed the envelope a little too far this time. Last night I offered my 450g Bredli a 57g small rat. He had been eating 35-45g rat weaners prior to that. The rat didn't really look too big compared to the girth of the snake but I guess it must have been too much for him to handle because he got it 3/4 of the way down before spitting it back out. My question is should I treat this as a regurge and not feed him for 2-3 weeks or should I consider it a one off and resume his normal feeding schedule in 7-10 days? I'll definitely be feeding him a smaller meal. Lesson learned.
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10-26-16, 10:48 AM
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Re: A little embarrassed to admit
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Originally Posted by EL Ziggy
To error is human right? I must have pushed the envelope a little too far this time. Last night I offered my 450g Bredli a 57g small rat. He had been eating 35-45g rat weaners prior to that. The rat didn't really look too big compared to the girth of the snake but I guess it must have been too much for him to handle because he got it 3/4 of the way down before spitting it back out. My question is should I treat this as a regurge and not feed him for 2-3 weeks or should I consider it a one off and resume his normal feeding schedule in 7-10 days? I'll definitely be feeding him a smaller meal. Lesson learned.
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It's a one-off don't worry about it. The snake figured it was too big of a meal and spit it back out. You could feed the snake within a day or two.
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10-26-16, 11:08 AM
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Re: A little embarrassed to admit
EL, both vomiting and regurgitation occur after the prey has been already consumed. If he "spit it out" prior to completely devouring it then that is what it is. Spit out. Vomiting usually occurs shortly ( minutes to hours) after consuming something. Regurgitation, by definition, is the expelling of something eaten days later that is partially digested.
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10-26-16, 11:23 AM
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Re: A little embarrassed to admit
Copy that gents. Thanks for the clarification. He definitely spit it out and hadn't completely swallowed the prey item. I'll try him again in a week.
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10-26-16, 11:49 AM
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Re: A little embarrassed to admit
Just to add to this if you didn't make mistakes you wouldn't be human Ziggy mate we all do
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10-26-16, 01:10 PM
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Re: A little embarrassed to admit
Zig...sent you PM...just making sure you got it.
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10-26-16, 01:15 PM
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Re: A little embarrassed to admit
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Just to add to this if you didn't make mistakes you wouldn't be human Ziggy mate we all do
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Unless you're me
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10-26-16, 01:36 PM
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Re: A little embarrassed to admit
@ MDT- My apologies brother. I thought I had replied to you days ago. I just did.
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10-26-16, 01:39 PM
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Re: A little embarrassed to admit
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Forgive Aaron I'd forgotten about you mate
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10-26-16, 01:39 PM
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Re: A little embarrassed to admit
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Right, because you are an alien who makes mostakes.
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10-26-16, 02:37 PM
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Re: A little embarrassed to admit
Are bredli more sensitive to prey size than other Morelia? My IJ will happily take a rat 25-30% of body weight?
Just curious as that doesn't seem a big meal. I guess a snake knows what it's comfortable with though.
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10-26-16, 02:38 PM
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Re: A little embarrassed to admit
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Forgive Aaron I'd forgotten about you mate
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No problem! You're forgiven my good man!
I legit just ordered a coffee mug that says "World's Greatest Everything" on it.
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10-26-16, 02:39 PM
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Re: A little embarrassed to admit
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No problem! You're forgiven my good man!
I legit just ordered a coffee mug that says "World's Greatest Everything" on it.
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You need to adopt one of my favourite sayings-'correct me of I'm wrong but I don't think I am...'
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10-26-16, 02:40 PM
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Re: A little embarrassed to admit
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Are bredli more sensitive to prey size than other Morelia? My IJ will happily take a rat 25-30% of body weight?
Just curious as that doesn't seem a big meal. I guess a snake knows what it's comfortable with though.
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I would think it's a snake specific sensitivity. I believe most snakes would take larger prey size like you mention but this snake in particular doesn't feel comfortable with it.
Also possible that while the snake was getting it down it felt vulnerable for whatever reason, or spooked by a person nearby and decided to give up to avoid a "predator".
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10-26-16, 02:43 PM
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Re: A little embarrassed to admit
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Originally Posted by Aaron_S
I would think it's a snake specific sensitivity. I believe most snakes would take larger prey size like you mention but this snake in particular doesn't feel comfortable with it.
Also possible that while the snake was getting it down it felt vulnerable for whatever reason, or spooked by a person nearby and decided to give up to avoid a "predator".
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Thanks Aaron-that makes sense and highlights the importance of knowing your individual animals.
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